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this hope radiates for the masses

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headliner between July 8 1947 the Army

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possession of the RA the game is rigged

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change the game game changer I

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occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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were facing an alien threat from outside

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network and a GRA the global rain

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you are listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge or the game change in that

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hi you doing

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today's Tuesday

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September 11 2008 een

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two hundred and fifty seven days into

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the new year just 108 days left we are

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live from a bunker somewhere in

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beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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tiddler to and fro back and forth up and

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down east and west north and south far

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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game changer Network and K GRA the

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crackin everybody how you doing

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tonight tonight we have very special

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guest with us because this is our

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September 11th 9/11 special and our

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guest is Justin to shams that's right

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we're going to discuss every angle every

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aspect of what happened back in 2001

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we're gonna do it all tonight on the

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tomorrow night

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Kelly Sullivan walden is here and the

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dream expert right at tomorrow night

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we're gonna discuss your dreams and we

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are also going to take your phone calls

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so that's tomorrow night Thursday is

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another Fator night with open lines all

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night long Jon Rappoport and is no more

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fake newsroom live and followed by like

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you know open lines all night long and

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is on the East Coast he is in the line

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of fire with hurricane Florence but

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assignment this week he is really on

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special assignment but he says he's

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all right I don't know what that means

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but I tried to get more information out

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of him today but he says he's good he's

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good for the show I said okay all right

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not to disclose where he is a patís in

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the Washington DC area I'll say that

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he's he's right in there okay so that's

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media and a few years ago one of the

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an official fade or not but let's just

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say somebody came up to me at a

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conference and said you know Jimmy you

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know one of the things that that we

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really dig about you is that that you

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really do hang out on social media it's

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not somebody else

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that's true I said but but I enjoy it

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and he said it's just it's just so much

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fun and and you're always there and I am

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and you can come and find me on social

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media you can find me over at on stellar

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on Twitter's where we hang out hashtag

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is where you can post your questions

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throughout the show and I know that

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tonight it's gonna be very active I get

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that so post everything that you need

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for me to see in hashtag f2 b q alright

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so Rappaport is in the swamp

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I said he's near the swamp he's got to

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be man he's got it he's got a he's got a

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you know keep your enemies close right

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what you do all right you can email

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throughout the show Jimmy at Jimmy

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Church radio calm lots to get to tonight

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so I'm going to get straight to it

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breaking news today a fast radio bursts

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from a dwarf galaxy three billion

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light-years away is wait for it

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repeating its signal the unknown object

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is called the repeater also known as FRB

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one two one one oh two and it is the

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only known FRB fast radio bursts to have

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emitted multiple bursts now here's a

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direct quote from the press release

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today quote FRBS from one to one 102

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originated in a dwarf galaxy three

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billion light-years from Earth but the

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nature of the object emitting them is

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unknown there are many theories and

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learning that they could be the

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signatures of technology developed by

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extraterrestrial intelligent life and

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quote the results of the team's research

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were published in the Astrophysical

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Journal yesterday Monday September 10th

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Gerry Shang and the breakthrough listen

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team observed one-to-one 102 for a total

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of five hours at the Green Bank

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telescope collecting 400 terabytes of

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data the team were initially able to

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pinpoint a total of 21 FRBS

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all of which took place within a one

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hour period the team using now check

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this the team using neural networks

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developed advanced a machine learning

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algorithms to further examine the data

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and have found an additional 72 bursts

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which were previously undetected and

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that is some really big breaking news

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also check this out I was sent this

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today the National Solar Observatory in

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Arizona was evacuated by the FBI and the

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nearby post office was also evacuated

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the place was roped off and no word was

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given as to why this was done the local

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sheriff has no idea why the FBI rolled

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in and took over so my contact who sent

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me this information being an avid solar

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observatory he finally got a hold of two

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of them and they told him that it was a

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security risk area and that they were

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told to leave and don't come back until

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they were told to now why would there be

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a security risk at a solar observatory

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in the middle of nowhere a spokesman for

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Otero County Sheriff's Office said that

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they are not involved in the

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investigation but they confirmed it rod

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Spurgeon a spokesman with the United

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States Postal Service said and I'm

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quoting right now what we're told is

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that they've temporarily evacuated the

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area we haven't been told why or when it

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expires now isn't that interesting turns

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out that going through this story a

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couple of little blurbs from the area

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and yes the FBI came in on Thursday last

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week and shut everything down roped off

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literally police taped off the area and

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the post office nobody has been allowed

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since and we have no new information as

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of today today is Tuesday think about

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that crazy have anything to do with

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these fr bees I don't know it's crazy

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crazy I'm gonna stay on top of the story

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though and I do have somebody in the

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area I've got a source so we will see

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don't forget to subscribe to our podcast

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this show crackin happy birthday to

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today Harry Connick jr. that's a Harry

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Connick jr. today is 51 he's 51 today

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how old was he when he did independence

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dance 1994 let's do the math right Wow

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oh he was like 35 today he is 51 well

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OTD on this day in history 2001

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at 8:45 a.m. on a clear Tuesday morning

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an American Airlines Boeing 767 loaded

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with 20,000 gallons of jet fuel crashes

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into the North Tower of the World Trade

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Center in New York City 18 minutes later

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a second Boeing 767 United Airlines

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flight 175 peered out of the sky turned

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sharply towards the World Trade Center

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and sliced into the South Tower

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at about the 60th floor an hour later

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American Airlines flight 77 circled

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downtown Washington and slammed into the

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west side of the Pentagon military

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World Trade Center collapsed at 10:10

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hijacked United flight 93 crashed in a

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world filled in western Pennsylvania 20

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minutes later at 10:30 a.m. the other

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Trade Center tower fell on this day in

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2001 Fader fact only six people in the

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World Trade Center towers at the time of

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their collapse survived tonight we have

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very special guests

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it is our September 11th 9/11 a special

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event and our guest tonight is Justin to

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Shamsul we're going to discuss every

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angle of what happened that day all of

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the theories all of the ideas and

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everything is going to be put onto the

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table tomorrow night Kelly Sullivan

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Walden is joining the show and we are

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going to discuss your dreams and take

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your phone calls all night long

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Thursday is another Fator night with

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open lines Jon Rappoport

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is going to be here reporting live from

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the hurricane on the East Coast followed

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by open lines all night long all right

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can only sleep with something on today

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it's the radio or something playing on a

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Bluetooth speaker on my nightstand right

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if it's too quiet my brain just gets too

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busy and I can't sleep right if there's

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nothing distracting me from my brain I'm

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serious my mind I don't have that in the

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background my mind goes all over the

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place you know stay awake and so if I

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have something on I can concentrate on

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that and it'll pull me in that direction

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I can fall asleep but back in the day

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back in the day I kept the TV on all

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night I have my own reasons for that and

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you know that but I can't do it today

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because the TV that Rita and I have in

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the bedroom is ginormous and it's like

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having the Sun in your face right well

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it's great to watch but you can't fall

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asleep to it because it's you know it's

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it's it's that big huge but back on

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September 11 2001 that TV was on all

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night and I remember dreaming and

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hearing all over over and over and over

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again that a small plane had crashed

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into the top of the World Trade Center

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and this was you know this was in my

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dream and I woke up and I looked down at

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the foot of the bed

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you know rubbing my eyes and I saw the

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smoke coming from the top of the World

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Trade Center right and I don't know what

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was on the Today Show or you know

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something something was on and and I'm

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like what what's going on

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well that morning I did what the rest of

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America and the world did I watched the

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events unfold and what seemed like

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rapid-fire succession and it didn't stop

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at around noon pacific time i got in my

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car and headed to my office in santa

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monica and for some reason i didn't take

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the 405 freeway but instead i went over

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the hill I took Benedict Canyon and I

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stopped in West Hollywood and then took

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Santa Monica Boulevard through Beverly

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Hills heading west into Santa Monica and

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I only bring this up because I remember

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the Beverly Hills courthouse was already

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surrounded by National Guard troops as I

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drove by and I found myself in this

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weird strange surreal dream place it was

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just bizarre oh this strange world only

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happened to me once before and it was

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the morning of the Northridge earthquake

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back in January 1994 and yes the

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National Guard was on every corner my

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neighborhood then too you know and it's

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a very strange thing to see well when

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this kind of trauma hits you and takes

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you out of your normal daily existence

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something else kicks in your brain is is

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trying to make sense of it all

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but it can't everything around you just

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looks different and I remember I

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remember just sitting and watching the

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24-hour coverage on TV day after day

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not getting any sleep and and nothing

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around me looked the same not my home my

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car my neighborhood the drive to work

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everything changed right it was like the

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colors had changed and the mood in my

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mind when events like this you know

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happened the sudden and intense

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life-changing events you know they

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change you and it's your brain trying to

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adapt you know I'm making a guess here

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but it's true

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and I don't know if anything will happen

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again in my lifetime that will cause

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that strange dreamscape thing to flood

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my senses but it's also become a fear

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you know that that breaking news thing

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that flashes across the TV right and

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your heart skips a beat or the you know

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we interrupt this program you know when

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that happens on the radio and your

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stomach just twists up in a knot you

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know or the ground starts shaking under

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your feet yeah it's a fear the funny

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thing is we never know when these events

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may happen and we just can't predict the

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future but I know this I don't want ever

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anyone to have the experience again I

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don't how many hurricanes last year

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think about that for a second

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how many hurricanes how many fires

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countless fires that have torn across

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this country you know and people going

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through this trauma mass shootings Las

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Vegas right think about that these are

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life-changing events and right now we

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have hurricane Florence at bearing down

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on the east coast of the US and as I

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speak to you right now there are over a

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million people evacuating and going

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through that same strange surreal world

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that I speak of so today on this

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September 11th we're going to be

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discussing what happened back in 2001

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but if you never went through a natural

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disaster an earthquake or a war you

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probably did experience 9/11 and you

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know what it's like to have your world

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change forever during the immediate

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aftermath

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in the years since 9/11 something just

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didn't sit right with me and yes I read

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all of the conspiracy stuff and I

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watched the documentaries loose change

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and although they all can't be right

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one thing is for sure we have not been

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told the truth about what happened two

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things that I just can't shake there are

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two well there's many but there's two

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first how could the building's just fall

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how is that possible I don't know if any

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of you visited the World Trade Centers

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back when they were standing I did a few

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times and I did go to the top once but

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it seemed that every time I went to New

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York and I was with friends we would

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always go to the world trade we would do

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everything you don't go to you know but

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the World Trade Center was one of those

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places where you'd you went down there

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and just looked at these buildings you

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know and you could walk into the

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lobbying and the the feeling of the

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might and the power and the strength

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it's overwhelming because you just look

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up and they are so big did you get the

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same feeling at you know the Sears Tower

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right in Chicago and for me also growing

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up the Sears Tower and the John Hancock

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building and so when you're in New York

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and you're looking at these ginormous

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buildings that are everywhere the World

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Trade Centers were just unbelievably big

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they were big they were square they were

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just strong and tall and I still don't

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know how they fell that part I just

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can't figure out in my own mind and the

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second thing that I can't shake is that

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our government knew about everything in

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this is a very important point here

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because the second point is the biggest

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conspiracy of them all and it gets lost

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in all of the noise around 9/11 if

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anyone at any level in our government

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knew about what was going on and what

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was going to happen on that day in 2001

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before it happened we have a real

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problem on our hands that's the real

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conspiracy you can talk about thermite

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you can talk about nuclear weapons you

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can talk about holographic planes

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doctored videos right controlled

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demolitions you can do all of that all

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that you want but there is real proof

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that our leaders knew about it all in

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advance whatever it was and that's what

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scares me the fact that someone knew and

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caused this country to go into that

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strange surreal dreamscape and cause

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lifelong trauma is the real crime here

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and you need to think about that

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seriously when you go through something

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that huge you change your worldview

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changes everything around you changes

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you don't look at your friends the same

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your co-workers people on the street

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when you're driving with what everything

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is different it's a different shade and

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I remember specifically on 9/11 how how

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it looked gray you know when a

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thunderstorm and you got the great

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clouds overhead and everything just goes

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into that sepia orange gray thing that's

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what I went through and I know that

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everybody else was doing the exact same

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thing

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it's traumatic and to put this

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population and much of the world through

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that kind of of emotional drama and

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trauma that's the real crime it all

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tipped off for me with one single thing

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right after 9/11 and I'm following the

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news just like everybody else and I'm

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trying to absorb everything just like

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everybody else was I was no different

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but when every plane in this country was

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grounded and nobody could fly anywhere

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my own mother had to drive from Columbus

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Ohio to South Bend Indiana because my

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grandfather her father was in the

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hospital and was about to pass away she

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could not fly all the flights were

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grounded and he passed away that week by

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the way and I couldn't fly home so when

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all of those planes were grounded

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the only flights that were in the air

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were the bin Laden family in private

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jets getting flown out of the United

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States now that that right there said to

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me somebody knows something nobody's

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talking about it and that scared me and

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I knew then I knew then that no matter

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what what the story was gonna be no

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matter what what what how do they were

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gonna lay it out that it wasn't going to

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be the truth now I will say this before

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Justin comes on the show it may be that

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it was just terrorists on planes that

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flew into these buildings and crashed

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into a field in Pennsylvania and crashed

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into the Pentagon it just may be that

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that's all it was

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okay all right but our government and

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people in the government from the

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highest levels on down knew in advance

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that it was going to happen

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that is the bigger crime you can talk

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any conspiracy theory you want you want

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the ultimate conspiracy you want the

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ultimate false flag it's that right

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there this is fade to black and on this

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anniversary of September 11 2001 Justin

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to shams and I of stillness of the storm

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are going to discuss every angle of 9/11

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are we gonna get answers tonight we

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might and I hope that we do but what we

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need to do is continue this conversation

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I'm gonna be right back after this short

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[Music]

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alright walkabout k2 block I'm arrows

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Jimmy Church tonight is our September

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11th 9/11 special event with our guest

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Justin Deschamps I'm dedicating this

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broadcast to Jim Marrs born on December

585
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5th 1943 passed away last year August

586
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2nd 2017 Mars was a member of the

587
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scholars for 9/11 truth and in 2003 his

588
00:33:59,670 --> 00:33:57,490
book the war on freedom probed the

589
00:34:02,640 --> 00:33:59,680
alleged conspiracies of the September

590
00:34:06,420 --> 00:34:02,650
11th attacks and their aftermath and it

591
00:34:10,290 --> 00:34:06,430
was released in 2006 under the title the

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00:34:11,130 --> 00:34:10,300
terror conspiracy Jim I miss you every

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single day

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00:34:16,580 --> 00:34:13,120
and I hope you're listening right now

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our guest tonight is Justin - amps and

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tonight is September 11th and we are

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going to discuss the full story behind

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what happened that day in 2001 we will

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try to find out what may be the real

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truth behind the attack was it them was

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it us was it a combination of both we're

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going to discuss all of that tonight

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Justin was born in Portland Maine and

604
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grew up in the Boston area as a physics

605
00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:40,929
psychology and spirituality student he

606
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:42,640
has been searching for truth all of his

607
00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:44,890
life looking to make sense of all of the

608
00:34:49,050 --> 00:34:47,380
insanity of this world in that time he

609
00:34:51,090 --> 00:34:49,060
has developed a holistic body of

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knowledge linking science philosophy and

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spirituality into a single framework of

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00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:56,800
never expanding understanding he wants

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00:35:00,660 --> 00:34:58,170
to share that truth to the world

614
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:00,670
becoming a teacher to some and a student

615
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:03,370
to others his goal is to help himself

616
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:05,890
and others become a better truth seeker

617
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:07,810
and with his wisdom gained in the

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process make this planet the paradise it

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was meant to be that's right his website

620
00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:16,150
is stillness in the storm and I would

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like to welcome back to fade to black

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Justin des Champs and Justin good

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evening my friend how are you good Jimmy

624
00:35:26,970 --> 00:35:24,610
good to be back it's good to hear your

625
00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:26,980
voice is always the the voice of reason

626
00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:36,519
yeah the student and the teacher yeah

627
00:35:44,319 --> 00:35:41,000
that you are Justin on this day I want

628
00:35:48,010 --> 00:35:44,329
to ask you first take me back to where

629
00:35:51,940 --> 00:35:48,020
you were on September 11th 2001 and how

630
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:51,950
did you get the news well I was in

631
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:53,690
college at the time I was attending

632
00:36:01,890 --> 00:35:57,170
University uh math Lowell in

633
00:36:04,299 --> 00:36:01,900
Massachusetts and I remember I got up Oh

634
00:36:06,069 --> 00:36:04,309
Holly like at 8 o'clock that day

635
00:36:08,799 --> 00:36:06,079
something like that it was gonna fit in

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00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:08,809
to school I commuted and a friend of

637
00:36:13,269 --> 00:36:10,279
mine called and said have you seen the

638
00:36:16,269 --> 00:36:13,279
news I said no I hadn't seen the news so

639
00:36:17,740 --> 00:36:16,279
I go and flip on the TV and of course

640
00:36:20,049 --> 00:36:17,750
there's a lot of people discovered there

641
00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:20,059
was a massive events happening I think

642
00:36:25,180 --> 00:36:22,390
at that point the first Tower was hit

643
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and the second power hadn't been struck

644
00:36:30,549 --> 00:36:28,819
yet and just mayhem was ensuing and I

645
00:36:33,670 --> 00:36:30,559
was in Massachusetts at the time so it

646
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:33,680
was a it was a pretty catalyzing for me

647
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:35,450
and I didn't really fully understand

648
00:36:38,529 --> 00:36:37,010
what was happening obviously at the time

649
00:36:40,329 --> 00:36:38,539
because I wasn't had gone from their

650
00:36:42,970 --> 00:36:40,339
wakeup experience yet but I remember it

651
00:36:44,170 --> 00:36:42,980
being monumental and my father was

652
00:36:45,609 --> 00:36:44,180
actually in New York at the time

653
00:36:47,710 --> 00:36:45,619
thankfully he didn't have to deal with

654
00:36:48,839 --> 00:36:47,720
any issues but so yeah that's how I

655
00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:48,849
heard about it

656
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:52,250
yeah and and looking back he just

657
00:36:58,660 --> 00:36:55,670
reminded me I had friends and clients

658
00:37:03,640 --> 00:36:58,670
that were in New York City that day

659
00:37:08,319 --> 00:37:03,650
about to film a music video and they

660
00:37:12,359 --> 00:37:08,329
were at a hotel down the street and when

661
00:37:15,819 --> 00:37:12,369
all of this happened and yeah I was

662
00:37:17,890 --> 00:37:15,829
desperately trying to reach out to a few

663
00:37:20,829 --> 00:37:17,900
friends of mine that were in New York

664
00:37:23,620 --> 00:37:20,839
City but it was like impossible to get

665
00:37:28,630 --> 00:37:23,630
through I happened to get through to a

666
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:28,640
couple of friends but it was it was

667
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tough and watching the other thing that

668
00:37:36,839 --> 00:37:33,950
I do remember well I'll remember all of

669
00:37:42,069 --> 00:37:36,849
it but things that stick out of my mind

670
00:37:44,059 --> 00:37:42,079
was the mass exodus of everybody on foot

671
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right the car

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and of people turning on bridges and

673
00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:49,949
roads and and just just trying to get

674
00:37:56,509 --> 00:37:53,670
off of Manhattan that was an

675
00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:56,519
unbelievable thing to see

676
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I watched the building's come down in

677
00:38:06,199 --> 00:38:01,019
real time like everybody else did but it

678
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:06,209
was some of the other things that that I

679
00:38:12,189 --> 00:38:09,170
was just referring to the surreal

680
00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:12,199
dreamscape that your mind goes into

681
00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:15,630
during events like this and I cannot

682
00:38:24,439 --> 00:38:19,380
imagine what was going through the minds

683
00:38:26,779 --> 00:38:24,449
of everyone on Manhattan that day you

684
00:38:30,289 --> 00:38:26,789
know right just an unbelievable

685
00:38:32,779 --> 00:38:30,299
traumatic event unbelievable oh what's

686
00:38:34,249 --> 00:38:32,789
so interesting about that you know

687
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:34,259
before we get into the conspiratorial

688
00:38:39,499 --> 00:38:36,690
aspects of this event is I actually

689
00:38:43,099 --> 00:38:39,509
think the the response of the people

690
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:43,109
there in New York was one of those

691
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:47,130
moments that reveals that we actually do

692
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:48,930
have a good human nature because I mean

693
00:38:52,969 --> 00:38:50,609
you know these massive events happened

694
00:38:54,589 --> 00:38:52,979
false flag takes place thousands of

695
00:38:56,959 --> 00:38:54,599
people die it's arguably this huge

696
00:38:59,029 --> 00:38:56,969
tragedy people's entire worldviews are

697
00:39:01,249 --> 00:38:59,039
shaken up and instead of there being

698
00:39:03,650 --> 00:39:01,259
like mass murder and complete chaos

699
00:39:05,059 --> 00:39:03,660
like you'd expect there was people

700
00:39:06,739 --> 00:39:05,069
helping each other there's people

701
00:39:08,449 --> 00:39:06,749
helping each other out you had a whole

702
00:39:11,420 --> 00:39:08,459
bunch of examples of people being

703
00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:11,430
humanitarians and good Samaritans so I

704
00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:13,319
think this is one of these times where

705
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:15,180
you know you strip away the facade you

706
00:39:20,539 --> 00:39:18,420
strip away all of the manipulated

707
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:20,549
reality that we live in and you get it

708
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:22,170
down to bare bones at a psychological

709
00:39:26,420 --> 00:39:24,569
level and the goodness that is inherent

710
00:39:27,769 --> 00:39:26,430
and most people just kind of come to the

711
00:39:30,549 --> 00:39:27,779
fore and I think that was one of the

712
00:39:36,439 --> 00:39:30,559
silver linings of this event for sure

713
00:39:39,949 --> 00:39:36,449
ultimately in your mind and your

714
00:39:41,630 --> 00:39:39,959
research what do you think the short

715
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:41,640
version we're gonna discuss all of this

716
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:44,130
tonight the short version what do you

717
00:39:59,309 --> 00:39:55,470
oh boy well I would say that from a dark

718
00:40:01,620 --> 00:39:59,319
occult perspective the 9/11 attack had a

719
00:40:06,329 --> 00:40:01,630
cult or becomes it was it took place on

720
00:40:09,049 --> 00:40:06,339
September 11th and 9/11 is significant

721
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:09,059
from a Kabbalistic perspective because

722
00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:12,430
we're skipping the ten Sephirot which is

723
00:40:17,819 --> 00:40:14,950
the ancients and days or katare which

724
00:40:20,339 --> 00:40:17,829
symbolizes usually the Justice card or

725
00:40:23,249 --> 00:40:20,349
man's knowledge of the divine or a

726
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:23,259
divine law the embodiment of law okay so

727
00:40:28,859 --> 00:40:26,079
in that in that sense from a darker

728
00:40:32,519 --> 00:40:28,869
color perspective what the event was was

729
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:32,529
an attack on the the knowledge of law

730
00:40:37,319 --> 00:40:34,930
the goodness the sort of true

731
00:40:39,359 --> 00:40:37,329
sovereignty that we have on this planet

732
00:40:42,329 --> 00:40:39,369
and it was I think a declaration of war

733
00:40:44,789 --> 00:40:42,339
on the positive forces of the light

734
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:44,799
forces and so there's a battle that's

735
00:40:46,799 --> 00:40:46,150
been happening on the planet for a very

736
00:40:50,279 --> 00:40:46,809
long time

737
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:50,289
and the powers that be wanted to have

738
00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:52,450
some type of a cult event that would

739
00:40:57,569 --> 00:40:54,430
signal to the people who had the eyes

740
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:57,579
and ears to see that the weird literally

741
00:41:02,849 --> 00:40:59,920
declaring war on the fabric of reality

742
00:41:05,579 --> 00:41:02,859
that governs you know our interaction

743
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:05,589
with the divine so I think that's a

744
00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:07,210
really big thread that happened it also

745
00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:11,140
happened on Tuesday when Tuesday relates

746
00:41:17,609 --> 00:41:13,720
to the God of War so it was it had those

747
00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:17,619
overtones of being an act of war on you

748
00:41:20,009 --> 00:41:18,700
know the lawful side and there's

749
00:41:21,390 --> 00:41:20,019
certainly other threads we could pull

750
00:41:23,579 --> 00:41:21,400
from that that's one point throughout

751
00:41:27,539 --> 00:41:23,589
there well let's stay with that for a

752
00:41:32,749 --> 00:41:27,549
second okay so that's a very interesting

753
00:41:35,730 --> 00:41:32,759
point to bring up now who would

754
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:35,740
Institute that plan on that day are we

755
00:41:42,359 --> 00:41:40,210
talking about bin Laden or was bin Laden

756
00:41:45,029 --> 00:41:42,369
working with others with this date was

757
00:41:48,569 --> 00:41:45,039
obviously planned in advance and if they

758
00:41:53,749 --> 00:41:48,579
were using it for for those significant

759
00:41:56,339 --> 00:41:53,759
reasons who who would have had I mean

760
00:42:00,660 --> 00:41:56,349
would would bin Laden have had that

761
00:42:02,730 --> 00:42:00,670
knowledge right oh robably yeah yeah

762
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:02,740
yeah I don't think

763
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:04,330
was aware of it I mean it's certainly

764
00:42:08,490 --> 00:42:05,890
possible he could have been one of these

765
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:08,500
deep insiders but I think there were

766
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:10,450
like a lot of people who got caught up

767
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:11,650
in this thing I think there were a lot

768
00:42:16,170 --> 00:42:13,510
of ponds they were just either quote

769
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:16,180
unquote following orders or doing what

770
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:18,610
they thought was beneficial so bin Laden

771
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:19,690
could have been one of these guys he

772
00:42:24,060 --> 00:42:22,000
really did believe that a jihad against

773
00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:24,070
the West was a good thing and then he

774
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:28,500
was used as a operative so he was it was

775
00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:31,690
right so he was given the date the date

776
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:34,060
didn't have significance for him it was

777
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:37,990
just a date right exactly yeah that's

778
00:42:42,420 --> 00:42:40,570
interesting I mean yeah the other and

779
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:42,430
then to lend credence to that I mean the

780
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:45,550
if I remember correctly the the building

781
00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:48,400
was started to be built the plans began

782
00:42:54,540 --> 00:42:51,340
at 60 years to the day before the

783
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:54,550
September 11th attacks in 2001 so

784
00:42:58,020 --> 00:42:56,770
there's there's a whole swath of

785
00:42:59,550 --> 00:42:58,030
evidence out there you could go to

786
00:43:01,620 --> 00:42:59,560
massive rabbit hole to suggest that

787
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:01,630
they've been planning this this darker

788
00:43:05,580 --> 00:43:03,610
color ritual that's false flag event for

789
00:43:08,570 --> 00:43:05,590
potentially at least the past six years

790
00:43:15,780 --> 00:43:08,580
and arguably even earlier before that

791
00:43:21,050 --> 00:43:15,790
the the reality of the attacks and the

792
00:43:26,130 --> 00:43:21,060
event and the enormity of it for you

793
00:43:27,690 --> 00:43:26,140
what was the first clue that there was

794
00:43:32,849 --> 00:43:27,700
something else going on here

795
00:43:36,150 --> 00:43:32,859
than what we what we were told sure well

796
00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:36,160
um Jesus for many years I didn't really

797
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:37,840
question anything it wasn't until I had

798
00:43:43,590 --> 00:43:40,450
my wake-up experience in 2010 that I saw

799
00:43:45,150 --> 00:43:43,600
I believe it was the loose change right

800
00:43:47,730 --> 00:43:45,160
and I actually got to see the video

801
00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:47,740
footage of these explosions happening

802
00:43:51,750 --> 00:43:49,960
moments before the planes were hitting

803
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:51,760
and then you see like these others

804
00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:53,890
explosions happening as the towers

805
00:43:57,930 --> 00:43:55,900
collapsing you know several floors down

806
00:44:00,060 --> 00:43:57,940
you're seeing these explosions come out

807
00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:00,070
of certain windows so that's when I

808
00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,660
really started to say wait a minute it's

809
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:03,040
just something not right there and then

810
00:44:06,650 --> 00:44:04,930
you know I also have thought about the

811
00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:06,660
physics behind it again I hadn't really

812
00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:08,260
contemplated it because I just so

813
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:09,670
readily accepted the mainstream

814
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:11,650
narrative but once my eyes were opened I

815
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:14,170
thought to myself you know how often

816
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:16,330
does is it that a massive skyscraper

817
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:16,720
that is

818
00:44:23,010 --> 00:44:18,790
literally designed to withstand the

819
00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:23,020
impact of large Airlines airplanes how

820
00:44:27,810 --> 00:44:25,840
is it that that building gets hit it

821
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:27,820
burns for a few hours and then it falls

822
00:44:32,190 --> 00:44:30,190
into its own footprint at freefall

823
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:32,200
freefall speed with almost no debris

824
00:44:35,430 --> 00:44:34,030
right I mean that's when I really

825
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:35,440
started to question things like wait a

826
00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:36,970
minute there's way more happening here

827
00:44:41,839 --> 00:44:38,830
than what the official story is telling

828
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:41,849
us for me I go I get caught in this

829
00:44:51,330 --> 00:44:46,210
catch-22 and here is the catch-22 and I

830
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:51,340
can't get out of it is that we have the

831
00:44:56,330 --> 00:44:53,500
events and if I just take it as planes

832
00:45:00,599 --> 00:44:56,340
flying into the World Trade Center

833
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:00,609
hijacked by terrorists that's one thing

834
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:03,910
and but the the other part of it is

835
00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:07,330
besides the government knowing in

836
00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:11,320
advance and clearly factually there is

837
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:14,590
proof that they did so you have that

838
00:45:20,010 --> 00:45:18,130
element of it and but if you want to

839
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:20,020
stay with the narrative that it was

840
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:23,470
planes that flew in that okay let's

841
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:25,630
let's just say we buy into all of that

842
00:45:30,930 --> 00:45:27,190
the government knew in advance and the

843
00:45:34,980 --> 00:45:30,940
planes flew in we have this huge thing

844
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:34,990
caught in the middle they fell the

845
00:45:44,370 --> 00:45:39,609
buildings fell down and that's the part

846
00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:44,380
where all of this any idea now has to

847
00:45:49,890 --> 00:45:46,900
get looked at because I just don't see

848
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:49,900
those buildings falling and I'm gonna

849
00:45:55,550 --> 00:45:52,480
ask you directly before they fell did

850
00:45:57,930 --> 00:45:55,560
you ever visit the World Trade Centers I

851
00:45:59,640 --> 00:45:57,940
did I didn't actually go in but I

852
00:46:00,960 --> 00:45:59,650
watched through the little pavilion park

853
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:00,970
they had in between them at one point

854
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:03,280
when I was really on yeah and so and

855
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:06,130
that that's great right because yeah you

856
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:10,390
got to see these buildings all of

857
00:46:14,010 --> 00:46:12,430
Manhattan you walk around and you see

858
00:46:15,270 --> 00:46:14,020
this this great architecture and they're

859
00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:15,280
huge these streets and you're walking

860
00:46:20,460 --> 00:46:17,349
down all you do is look up or hectic

861
00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:20,470
you're looking up everywhere and and

862
00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:22,030
then you get to the World Trade Center

863
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:25,089
and they were totally on another scale

864
00:46:33,099 --> 00:46:30,310
of size and strength they were just you

865
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:33,109
monolithic yeah a monolithic I can't

866
00:46:40,180 --> 00:46:36,710
even still to this day when when you go

867
00:46:43,089 --> 00:46:40,190
and think about that they were just

868
00:46:45,940 --> 00:46:43,099
there was just no no way to me and my

869
00:46:50,579 --> 00:46:45,950
mind's eye that they just fell down it's

870
00:46:53,079 --> 00:46:50,589
it's an impossibility last two years ago

871
00:46:55,630 --> 00:46:53,089
three years ago two years ago Reid and I

872
00:46:58,660 --> 00:46:55,640
went to Manhattan and we went down to

873
00:47:01,210 --> 00:46:58,670
the memorial there and where they have

874
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:01,220
the two pools the two fountains the

875
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:06,290
pools and you look at the square where

876
00:47:10,780 --> 00:47:07,640
you know the footprint of the bill and

877
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:10,790
you look at that and you look over at at

878
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:14,210
world one and you look up at that and

879
00:47:18,190 --> 00:47:15,680
you look at the size of it and then you

880
00:47:20,109 --> 00:47:18,200
just imagine these two buildings sitting

881
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:20,119
right next to it that big right that

882
00:47:26,829 --> 00:47:23,510
tall with that huge footprint going up

883
00:47:28,810 --> 00:47:26,839
and it it just doesn't compute that

884
00:47:30,910 --> 00:47:28,820
these buildings were actually there and

885
00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:30,920
brought down by planes and that's the

886
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:34,880
catch-22 that I find myself in you can

887
00:47:38,589 --> 00:47:36,770
go with one narrative and you can accept

888
00:47:42,220 --> 00:47:38,599
that but then you go into the other one

889
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:42,230
that they fell down that's that's where

890
00:47:47,170 --> 00:47:43,970
things started to open up for me it just

891
00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:47,180
doesn't make any sense yeah exactly I

892
00:47:51,220 --> 00:47:48,830
mean that's the thing is once you start

893
00:47:53,260 --> 00:47:51,230
putting the pieces on the table you

894
00:47:54,970 --> 00:47:53,270
start looking at the available evidence

895
00:47:57,220 --> 00:47:54,980
we have there's just glaring

896
00:47:58,990 --> 00:47:57,230
inconsistencies everywhere I mean the

897
00:48:01,780 --> 00:47:59,000
fact that they seem to be planned for

898
00:48:03,339 --> 00:48:01,790
many years in advance I think if I

899
00:48:04,839 --> 00:48:03,349
remember correctly silverstein the guy

900
00:48:06,490 --> 00:48:04,849
who owned the lease on the building he

901
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:06,500
took out an insurance policy like a few

902
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:08,930
months beforehand and you got Donald

903
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:11,089
Rumsfeld going up there the day before

904
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:13,040
and saying that a whole bunch of money

905
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:16,089
is missing from the Pentagon budget I

906
00:48:21,310 --> 00:48:18,740
mean it's just item after item after

907
00:48:24,250 --> 00:48:21,320
item and it is one of these events that

908
00:48:26,109 --> 00:48:24,260
stand as a glaring example of anima

909
00:48:29,890 --> 00:48:26,119
nipple ation on our world so you know I

910
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:29,900
think the last time I saw a survey on it

911
00:48:36,099 --> 00:48:33,530
I want to say up to 70% of people asked

912
00:48:37,630 --> 00:48:36,109
whether or not 9/11 was the official

913
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:37,640
story was realized they said that the

914
00:48:42,910 --> 00:48:41,119
official story seems concocted so this

915
00:48:43,820 --> 00:48:42,920
is a massive wake of event for a lot of

916
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:43,830
people

917
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:47,760
and the the other okay now we're gonna

918
00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:49,680
get into a lot of different aspects of

919
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:51,720
this but let's just talk about some of

920
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:56,010
the the the facts that were pushed upon

921
00:49:04,430 --> 00:49:01,680
us that for me wreaked of of BS I don't

922
00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:04,440
want to use you know bad words but just

923
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:07,380
yes I didn't I didn't swallow the story

924
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:14,670
and that was the passport right right

925
00:49:23,330 --> 00:49:20,640
sooo commies okay so we were told two

926
00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:23,340
things one that when those buildings

927
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:26,430
came down nothing was left right

928
00:49:32,950 --> 00:49:29,700
everything was pulverized into dust not

929
00:49:36,850 --> 00:49:32,960
only not only bodies but steel concrete

930
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:36,860
phone systems computers whatever safes

931
00:49:45,140 --> 00:49:41,760
solid everything in that building was

932
00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:45,150
now dust and somehow wound up in that

933
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:50,150
little pile right in in Manhattan ER but

934
00:50:02,000 --> 00:49:55,970
the passport winds up on a sidewalk and

935
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:02,010
doesn't get pulverized and is found now

936
00:50:10,370 --> 00:50:07,170
wait a minute I mean just just I mean

937
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:10,380
and so I backed up when when that news

938
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:13,890
broke and and he was identified right

939
00:50:19,010 --> 00:50:16,890
now they've got they you know and and I

940
00:50:22,730 --> 00:50:19,020
just thought to myself people are

941
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:22,740
believing this I'm not and I just sat

942
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:24,450
back and I thought this is gonna blow

943
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:26,310
this whole story wide open people are

944
00:50:34,490 --> 00:50:30,720
going to to question this and they

945
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:34,500
didn't well right I mean that keeps us

946
00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:37,110
in mind I mean this guy presumably had

947
00:50:42,650 --> 00:50:40,110
this passport on him he's in an airplane

948
00:50:46,190 --> 00:50:42,660
he uses as a missile the plane literally

949
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:46,200
explodes it hits the building the floors

950
00:50:51,050 --> 00:50:48,540
that weren't enveloped by the flames

951
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:51,060
burnt for hours upon hours upon hours

952
00:50:56,540 --> 00:50:53,760
but somehow this guy's passport land

953
00:50:57,609 --> 00:50:56,550
basically on a sidewalk and is found

954
00:50:58,960 --> 00:50:57,619
within what was

955
00:51:01,359 --> 00:50:58,970
a couple weeks I don't even know if it

956
00:51:04,210 --> 00:51:01,369
was that a long time I say recovered

957
00:51:11,470 --> 00:51:04,220
things super easy yeah yeah yeah yeah it

958
00:51:14,259 --> 00:51:11,480
was one of those things for me that the

959
00:51:16,359 --> 00:51:14,269
odds of and that's what I always do just

960
00:51:17,589 --> 00:51:16,369
I just quote like to a numbers game I

961
00:51:20,529 --> 00:51:17,599
think what are the odds of this

962
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:20,539
happening well I mean what are the odds

963
00:51:24,609 --> 00:51:22,730
of you walking down the street and

964
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:24,619
picking up a lottery ticket that's worth

965
00:51:32,099 --> 00:51:28,249
300 million dollars right that wasn't

966
00:51:35,739 --> 00:51:32,109
cash the odds of you purchasing a

967
00:51:38,829 --> 00:51:35,749
lottery ticket and in it winning three

968
00:51:41,079 --> 00:51:38,839
hundred million dollars is one thing the

969
00:51:43,660 --> 00:51:41,089
odds of one getting purchased and then

970
00:51:47,319 --> 00:51:43,670
lost and you picking it up on the street

971
00:51:51,130 --> 00:51:47,329
now we're talking about stupid a stupid

972
00:51:54,190 --> 00:51:51,140
narrator and that's where we are at with

973
00:51:58,589 --> 00:51:54,200
this that the passport fluttered in the

974
00:52:02,789 --> 00:51:58,599
air survived the the flames the fire

975
00:52:05,470 --> 00:52:02,799
survived the collapse of the building

976
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:05,480
whatever however it got onto that

977
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:08,210
sidewalk it did and was discovered and

978
00:52:16,089 --> 00:52:12,319
that's that's just one in a huge long

979
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:16,099
list of things that they are expecting

980
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:19,910
us to buy now let me ask you this about

981
00:52:28,029 --> 00:52:24,890
this passport is it possible that that

982
00:52:33,279 --> 00:52:28,039
passport survived and was actually found

983
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:33,289
by someone sure it's definitive what

984
00:52:36,970 --> 00:52:35,390
possible I mean when we're considering

985
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:36,980
possibilities you always gonna remember

986
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:40,160
that anything is possible but how likely

987
00:52:44,799 --> 00:52:42,319
is it how probable is it given

988
00:52:47,380 --> 00:52:44,809
everything that we know I mean the odds

989
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:47,390
of something like that a plastic and

990
00:52:51,999 --> 00:52:50,210
paper passport surviving that level of

991
00:52:54,220 --> 00:52:52,009
heat and destruction is just so

992
00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:54,230
astronomical I mean like you said you

993
00:52:57,819 --> 00:52:55,849
have it you have a greater chance of

994
00:53:00,190 --> 00:52:57,829
winning a lottery by not actually buying

995
00:53:04,210 --> 00:53:00,200
a ticket that's how unlikely something

996
00:53:08,019 --> 00:53:04,220
like that is I would wager now okay just

997
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:08,029
so we can stayed factual here his

998
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:11,210
passport was reportedly

999
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:15,050
found by someone whose identity has

1000
00:53:26,579 --> 00:53:20,000
never been revealed okay on Vesey Street

1001
00:53:29,260 --> 00:53:26,589
and it was I believe if somebody can

1002
00:53:31,089 --> 00:53:29,270
correct me if I'm wrong but it was

1003
00:53:35,650 --> 00:53:31,099
actually found before the towers

1004
00:53:39,180 --> 00:53:35,660
collapsed really yes well that's a

1005
00:53:42,849 --> 00:53:39,190
glaring red flag so I'm just I'm just

1006
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:42,859
you know there there are many issues

1007
00:53:49,570 --> 00:53:47,210
that I have here but that one for me was

1008
00:53:51,910 --> 00:53:49,580
some of the things we're at the very

1009
00:53:54,970 --> 00:53:51,920
very beginning of all of this I just had

1010
00:53:55,780 --> 00:53:54,980
to sit back and go something is is not

1011
00:53:57,940 --> 00:53:55,790
right here

1012
00:54:01,300 --> 00:53:57,950
something's not right and I don't want

1013
00:54:03,430 --> 00:54:01,310
to I don't want to dismiss the tragedy I

1014
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:03,440
don't want to dismiss the people that

1015
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:06,170
died the firefighters and the first

1016
00:54:11,260 --> 00:54:08,570
responders and and everybody that was in

1017
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:11,270
five was is that that my heart ripped

1018
00:54:17,230 --> 00:54:14,150
out for for everybody involved here and

1019
00:54:19,750 --> 00:54:17,240
I don't want to go down this road but

1020
00:54:22,150 --> 00:54:19,760
when things are this obvious we have to

1021
00:54:24,180 --> 00:54:22,160
sit back and go wait a minute here we

1022
00:54:27,730 --> 00:54:24,190
need to start to question things and

1023
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:27,740
nobody was willing to step up and with

1024
00:54:34,510 --> 00:54:31,130
the and still haven't really I'm talking

1025
00:54:36,849 --> 00:54:34,520
about outside of our circles I'm just a

1026
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:36,859
while the the Senate hearings that were

1027
00:54:42,460 --> 00:54:39,410
involved and and everybody who was

1028
00:54:44,349 --> 00:54:42,470
trying to point fingers and blame but

1029
00:54:46,990 --> 00:54:44,359
they weren't trying to look at really

1030
00:54:49,780 --> 00:54:47,000
who knew what and what was really going

1031
00:54:52,210 --> 00:54:49,790
on that's the part that I don't know if

1032
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:52,220
we're ever gonna find out now we're

1033
00:54:56,589 --> 00:54:53,570
gonna we're gonna head towards a break

1034
00:54:59,770 --> 00:54:56,599
here but there's one other point for me

1035
00:55:04,510 --> 00:54:59,780
that that tipped the scales very early

1036
00:55:07,210 --> 00:55:04,520
on which is the flights in the United

1037
00:55:07,660 --> 00:55:07,220
States were all grounded nothing in the

1038
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:07,670
air

1039
00:55:16,510 --> 00:55:12,160
nowhere yep but yet the bin Laden family

1040
00:55:22,770 --> 00:55:16,520
was allowed to fly out of this country

1041
00:55:24,650 --> 00:55:22,780
on private jets now wait a minute

1042
00:55:28,670 --> 00:55:24,660
obviously

1043
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:28,680
that's the biggest red flag of all

1044
00:55:33,890 --> 00:55:31,170
obviously they knew that bin Laden was

1045
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:33,900
involved and they had to get the family

1046
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:36,960
out of this country before before what

1047
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:41,910
before what right exactly at point why

1048
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:43,470
would they even suspect anything dad's

1049
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:45,510
right was so early in the game before

1050
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:48,210
what of it so that's one of those points

1051
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:50,160
of circumstantial evidence we have say

1052
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:52,650
hey wait a minute guys why is it that

1053
00:55:56,870 --> 00:55:54,570
the NHANES families being flown out of

1054
00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:56,880
the country before he's even named a

1055
00:56:01,310 --> 00:55:59,220
suspect is it maybe because they already

1056
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:01,320
had him pinned as a scapegoat before

1057
00:56:04,870 --> 00:56:02,610
everything happened I think that's

1058
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:04,880
probably the most likely explanation

1059
00:56:12,980 --> 00:56:08,370
that's possible again see and and we

1060
00:56:14,380 --> 00:56:12,990
don't know much but what I'm thankful

1061
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:14,390
for

1062
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:16,770
well we don't know much but yet we know

1063
00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:20,970
a lot what I am thankful for is and I'll

1064
00:56:30,770 --> 00:56:24,500
say it right now when Alex Jones

1065
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:30,780
released loose change it's not the the

1066
00:56:36,890 --> 00:56:34,230
facts that they attempted to present in

1067
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:36,900
the movie that's not even the point the

1068
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:39,090
point is and what's most important here

1069
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:42,570
is that they forced questions to be

1070
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:45,570
asked and that's what's most important

1071
00:56:51,740 --> 00:56:49,410
here and and so thankfully you know Alex

1072
00:56:53,780 --> 00:56:51,750
Jones and other theorists out there were

1073
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:53,790
courageous enough to just go back and

1074
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:55,050
look at this and go hey wait a minute

1075
00:56:59,380 --> 00:56:57,690
here we've got a lot of things and once

1076
00:57:02,270 --> 00:56:59,390
they started to pull on that thread

1077
00:57:04,430 --> 00:57:02,280
right everything started to come apart

1078
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:04,440
and appointed in so many directions in

1079
00:57:11,090 --> 00:57:07,290
it and now as it turns out we can look

1080
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:11,100
back that there were hundreds of people

1081
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:15,690
involved hundreds of reasons there was a

1082
00:57:22,130 --> 00:57:19,170
lot of motive right have from so many

1083
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different people right and and things

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:24,570
are not what they seem so let's let's

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continue this conversation Justin and

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we'll pick up when we come back after

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this break and again I'm dedicating this

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show to the one and only Jim Marrs who

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passed away last August in 2017

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was one of the brave journalists out

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there that was willing to not only

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publish books but go on the record and

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speak about this he wasn't gonna let it

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go

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rest in peace Jim Marrs this is fade to

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black our guest tonight just into chefs

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this is fade to black I'm real Jimmy

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Church you can follow me on twitter @ JT

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tonight Justin to shams stillness in the

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storm tonight is our September 11th 9/11

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special event I'm dedicating this show

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to author journalist Jim Marrs and

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Justin the first thing that I want to

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jump into is a point that you brought up

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earlier which is controlled demolitions

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and let's let's let's let's jump into

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this quite directly what what stands out

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for you first with the controlled

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demolitions and why is that a

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01:03:22,780 --> 01:03:20,450
possibility well I think the big thing

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that stood out for me is I saw some

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photographs of some support beams and

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they had these sharp angles I believe

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there were about 60 or 45 degree angles

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01:03:34,420 --> 01:03:32,660
that just look like huts like you'd

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somebody just taken a blowtorch and just

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carbons right through this thing like it

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was butter so that was a big indicator

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for me and then I saw a presentation I

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want to say it was an engineer this was

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God it's gonna be about six years ago

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now and he had discussed you know the

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thermite issue that and it appears that

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they were nanoparticles related to some

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byproducts of thermite there that are

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normally used in a controlled demolition

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so you got those two pieces of evidence

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but then you just look at the towers and

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the way they fell I mean if you if you

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just do even a precursor research online

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for towers falling or buildings falling

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you know and most of the time when a

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building falls in its own footprint it's

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because it was a controlled demolition I

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couldn't find any example where a tower

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fell or a building fell and it fell

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perfectly in its own footprint and it

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not being controlled demolition so those

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are the two big major points that I kind

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of sight his massive red flags for this

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thing being controlled demolition the we

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have that the one tape on building seven

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you know came down too as well which

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seemed like

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verbal instruction to go ahead and bring

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the building down and that that kind of

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stood out for me I also thought that

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with the amount of force and and the in

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the way that the ground was probably

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vibrating there that it could have

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damaged some of the surrounding

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buildings but nothing else really

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happened except for that and it looked

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controlled to me too as well I did see a

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controlled demolition in Las Vegas I

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watched from Caesar's Palace I watched a

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hotel across the streets get get blown

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up and it was and brought down it was

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was pretty fascinating to see what yeah

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well see that but what what this is this

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is my takeaway from that and it's the

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same thing that happened on September

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11th in that when you see buildings in a

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controlled demolition you always see it

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in slow motion okay they slow it down

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you don't see it in real time the

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building across the street this hotel

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I'm trying to think of I'm trying to

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think of the name of the hotel but

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anyway it was there and then it was gone

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if you blinked you you missed it it was

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literally that fast it took a second

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right maybe two seconds and it was gone

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and it was the same thing with the World

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Trade Centers that they just came down

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so fast that it reminded me of what I

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saw in in Las Vegas so is is it a

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possibility well this is the thing and

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this is what I wanted to ask you about

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that to do that he would have to go in

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for probably days of not weeks in

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advance and and wire this building up

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right you would have to go in and

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it's done is that possible I mean if

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you've ever seen they've had a couple

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shows I saw one a few years ago where

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they they follow like crews to see how

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much prep work has to do to bring down a

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building I watched this one I think the

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building was maybe six storeys tall and

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they were in there for like six months

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they had to take the plans they had to

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identify all the load-bearing structures

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they had to go in and survey where those

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alerts load-bearing structures were find

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critical junction points put a certain

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and specific amount of charge in those

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critical Junction points and they had to

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time out those charges so that they all

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exploded precisely so and you know when

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you're taking down a building it's not

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01:07:43,859 --> 01:07:41,980
only you just load the fill the thing up

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01:07:45,089 --> 01:07:43,869
with TNT and you light a match and you

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walk away and everything looks up

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perfectly

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that's not the case at all each

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01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:49,329
explosion has to be perfectly timed

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because what you're basically doing is

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you're engineering a collapse you what

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01:07:57,059 --> 01:07:55,300
they try to do is they try to destroy

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01:07:58,680 --> 01:07:57,069
the superstructure where the

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01:08:00,839 --> 01:07:58,690
load-bearing structure is in the center

1307
01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:00,849
so that there's an implosion type of

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01:08:04,380 --> 01:08:02,470
effect and then they destroy the rest of

1309
01:08:06,569 --> 01:08:04,390
a building usually in some rotational

1310
01:08:09,630 --> 01:08:06,579
momentum so that it actually spins into

1311
01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:09,640
its own equipment so in that that takes

1312
01:08:13,230 --> 01:08:11,440
time it takes serious amounts of

1313
01:08:14,579 --> 01:08:13,240
planning this isn't just you know

1314
01:08:17,420 --> 01:08:14,589
something you can throw together in a

1315
01:08:19,979 --> 01:08:17,430
few days so I would suspect four

1316
01:08:22,829 --> 01:08:19,989
buildings as large as World Trade Center

1317
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:22,839
one and two the only way for that I

1318
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:24,730
could imagine that could happen is if

1319
01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:27,130
they were in there for potentially a

1320
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:29,350
year in advance or and this is another

1321
01:08:34,229 --> 01:08:31,120
theory that I've heard that they had

1322
01:08:36,410 --> 01:08:34,239
charges placed and this controlled

1323
01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:36,420
demolition infrastructure in place

1324
01:08:40,709 --> 01:08:38,980
potentially years in advance maybe it

1325
01:08:47,249 --> 01:08:40,719
was even built into the building when

1326
01:08:51,630 --> 01:08:47,259
they started construction the the the

1327
01:08:54,209 --> 01:08:51,640
idea of planes crashing in that high up

1328
01:08:56,820 --> 01:08:54,219
into the building and and then causing

1329
01:08:59,700 --> 01:08:56,830
it to crash that's where I scratched my

1330
01:09:01,559 --> 01:08:59,710
head and I you know I look back

1331
01:09:04,499 --> 01:09:01,569
historically had this ever happened

1332
01:09:07,499 --> 01:09:04,509
before and it turns out that it did it

1333
01:09:09,660 --> 01:09:07,509
happened in Manhattan with the Empire

1334
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:09,670
State Building

1335
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:12,880
I don't know if there's a b-25 Mitchell

1336
01:09:18,810 --> 01:09:15,040
or you know b-17 or something but flew

1337
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:18,820
it crashed into the top of the Empire

1338
01:09:26,610 --> 01:09:23,170
State Building nothing happened then in

1339
01:09:30,060 --> 01:09:26,620
Milan Italy we had a plane that crashed

1340
01:09:32,250 --> 01:09:30,070
in - I believe it was a bank again the

1341
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:32,260
the tallest building in Milan crashed

1342
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:34,930
into the top of the bank you know caught

1343
01:09:40,860 --> 01:09:37,810
it you know caused a fire it didn't

1344
01:09:43,290 --> 01:09:40,870
collapse now was it 20,000 gallons of

1345
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:43,300
aviation fuel no was it that same

1346
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:46,210
situation with the with the world war

1347
01:09:52,110 --> 01:09:48,850
two bomber you know with the amounts of

1348
01:09:55,530 --> 01:09:52,120
aviation fuel and and stuff the point is

1349
01:09:57,660 --> 01:09:55,540
the buildings did not fall down and we

1350
01:09:59,790 --> 01:09:57,670
have to look at that historically there

1351
01:10:02,340 --> 01:09:59,800
are other examples the world trade

1352
01:10:05,340 --> 01:10:02,350
centers aren't the only times that this

1353
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:05,350
type of event occurred but there is

1354
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:08,170
something else that I want to back up

1355
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:13,450
and visit which is the skill of flying a

1356
01:10:21,780 --> 01:10:18,490
plane into a building that that that's a

1357
01:10:26,490 --> 01:10:21,790
big point now I don't know about you but

1358
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:26,500
I had Microsoft whatever they call it I

1359
01:10:34,260 --> 01:10:29,110
had a flight simulator

1360
01:10:37,710 --> 01:10:34,270
I had yes yes I had all of them I had

1361
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:37,720
different versions of it and I I flew

1362
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:40,810
planes all the time and it was difficult

1363
01:10:44,070 --> 01:10:42,310
it was difficult to land it was

1364
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:44,080
difficult to take off it was difficult

1365
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:46,720
to fly once you got it up in the air you

1366
01:10:51,710 --> 01:10:48,610
can kind of cruise around and feel safe

1367
01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:51,720
but trying to do anything deliberate and

1368
01:10:58,230 --> 01:10:55,630
microsoft flight simulator told me one

1369
01:11:00,840 --> 01:10:58,240
thing it's not easy I have I've only

1370
01:11:03,210 --> 01:11:00,850
flown one plane where I've taken the

1371
01:11:05,580 --> 01:11:03,220
stick or this or whatever you want to

1372
01:11:08,250 --> 01:11:05,590
call it and and flew the plane it's not

1373
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:08,260
easy to do but and these were small

1374
01:11:12,690 --> 01:11:09,310
private planes

1375
01:11:18,210 --> 01:11:12,700
is it possible for somebody that has

1376
01:11:21,090 --> 01:11:18,220
never flown a jet to fly a jet a pin

1377
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:21,100
point into the side of the World Trade

1378
01:11:24,990 --> 01:11:22,210
Center we haven't even

1379
01:11:28,290 --> 01:11:25,000
talked about the Pentagon yet right

1380
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:28,300
right yeah well I I mean before I answer

1381
01:11:31,890 --> 01:11:30,010
that I want to actually say something to

1382
01:11:34,709 --> 01:11:31,900
what you said earlier which is that the

1383
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:34,719
fuel if you take jet fuel and you burn

1384
01:11:40,290 --> 01:11:35,050
it

1385
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:40,300
structural deformations and steel and

1386
01:11:45,090 --> 01:11:43,690
what we saw on 9/11 was liquid metal

1387
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:45,100
that was one of the things that was

1388
01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:46,810
boarded so the tempered just the

1389
01:11:52,140 --> 01:11:49,660
temperature differential um between what

1390
01:11:54,870 --> 01:11:52,150
steel can do when it's exposed to jet

1391
01:11:57,330 --> 01:11:54,880
fuel suggests that there was something

1392
01:11:59,310 --> 01:11:57,340
else happening there so plane jet fuel

1393
01:12:00,810 --> 01:11:59,320
did not cause that's the structural

1394
01:12:05,220 --> 01:12:00,820
integrity of the World Trade Center to

1395
01:12:07,290 --> 01:12:05,230
collapse that being said I mean I think

1396
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:07,300
the the total amount of time that these

1397
01:12:13,170 --> 01:12:10,570
alleged terrorists had to train up on

1398
01:12:16,440 --> 01:12:13,180
how to fly an airplane with doing some

1399
01:12:18,390 --> 01:12:16,450
incredible maneuvers was maybe I want to

1400
01:12:19,860 --> 01:12:18,400
say a couple weeks or a month these guys

1401
01:12:23,130 --> 01:12:19,870
supposedly went and trained up on this

1402
01:12:25,590 --> 01:12:23,140
stuff right so yeah I mean I played

1403
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:25,600
those flight simulators too man I had my

1404
01:12:33,390 --> 01:12:30,400
old Mac I think it was a to see I need

1405
01:12:35,910 --> 01:12:33,400
to play my flight simulator I played Red

1406
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:35,920
Baron and all these ones and man you're

1407
01:12:40,830 --> 01:12:37,690
right it was impossible to do anything

1408
01:12:42,990 --> 01:12:40,840
mate you know super fancy in that and

1409
01:12:44,550 --> 01:12:43,000
they basically flight simulators off of

1410
01:12:47,340 --> 01:12:44,560
the same simulators that the military

1411
01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:47,350
used to train their pilots so but it the

1412
01:12:53,180 --> 01:12:49,030
fact that somebody could potentially

1413
01:12:56,190 --> 01:12:53,190
take this airplane and perform also and

1414
01:12:58,260 --> 01:12:56,200
perfectly glide that airplane into this

1415
01:13:00,000 --> 01:12:58,270
building which is a very narrow target I

1416
01:13:02,850 --> 01:13:00,010
mean yet when you're flying in air size

1417
01:13:06,209 --> 01:13:02,860
I'd imagine you're the the amount of

1418
01:13:07,620 --> 01:13:06,219
leeway you have if you accidentally make

1419
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:07,630
a mistake and then you're off of course

1420
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:10,570
it's really tiny so I would say its

1421
01:13:14,910 --> 01:13:13,210
astronomical that these guys managed to

1422
01:13:17,180 --> 01:13:14,920
train themselves in a couple weeks and

1423
01:13:22,380 --> 01:13:17,190
then fly these planes into the building

1424
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:22,390
the next theory that I want to visit is

1425
01:13:30,270 --> 01:13:27,610
the holographic plane that that they

1426
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:30,280
weren't real or they were projections in

1427
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:33,850
the sky for all of Manhattan to see

1428
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:35,890
let's let's talk about that

1429
01:13:42,660 --> 01:13:38,410
second is as strange as that is to put

1430
01:13:43,950 --> 01:13:42,670
on the table when this theory which is

1431
01:13:47,090 --> 01:13:43,960
still alive out there

1432
01:13:49,140 --> 01:13:47,100
what do you think about that possibility

1433
01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:49,150
well it's an interesting theory I mean

1434
01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:51,910
it obviously appeals to the folks who

1435
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:53,860
work physically you know from the

1436
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:55,510
discernment and epistemological

1437
01:13:59,880 --> 01:13:57,520
perspective where you're not actually at

1438
01:14:02,550 --> 01:13:59,890
an event to witness something all you

1439
01:14:05,130 --> 01:14:02,560
can go off of whatever evidence you have

1440
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:05,140
available and a lot of the evidence we

1441
01:14:09,150 --> 01:14:07,120
have to say that the event even happens

1442
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:09,160
is video footage for most people so I

1443
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:11,350
think it's a compelling theory for a lot

1444
01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:12,730
of people because you know they weren't

1445
01:14:19,170 --> 01:14:16,270
physically there but in my estimation I

1446
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:19,180
would say that I'm not inclined to I

1447
01:14:24,330 --> 01:14:20,850
don't put a lot of fits into that theory

1448
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:24,340
because we have reports of actual

1449
01:14:28,650 --> 01:14:26,650
witnesses on the scene who saw the

1450
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:28,660
building crashing to it who heard the

1451
01:14:33,060 --> 01:14:30,850
explosions you know who saw debris

1452
01:14:35,610 --> 01:14:33,070
things like this so in order for that

1453
01:14:38,130 --> 01:14:35,620
holographic plane theory to be valid

1454
01:14:40,590 --> 01:14:38,140
we'd have to figure out a way to explain

1455
01:14:42,750 --> 01:14:40,600
all the first-hand witness testimony the

1456
01:14:44,310 --> 01:14:42,760
cellphone footage things like this or

1457
01:14:45,780 --> 01:14:44,320
camera footage weren't many cell phones

1458
01:14:48,060 --> 01:14:45,790
back then but camera footage of the

1459
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:48,070
event so I think that that one's

1460
01:14:51,180 --> 01:14:50,530
probably unlikely but uh what's your

1461
01:14:55,350 --> 01:14:51,190
take on it

1462
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:55,360
well the when we when we start to jump

1463
01:15:00,990 --> 01:14:57,850
into this part of it I think there was

1464
01:15:04,910 --> 01:15:01,000
an awful lot of video that is is pretty

1465
01:15:10,230 --> 01:15:04,920
compelling and then when you go and

1466
01:15:13,980 --> 01:15:10,240
there is a very famous video that I've

1467
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:13,990
watched over and over again showing a

1468
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:17,650
wing disappear behind this building

1469
01:15:25,860 --> 01:15:22,210
right and yeah you've seen it so I went

1470
01:15:28,890 --> 01:15:25,870
and and and pulled up all of the

1471
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:28,900
historic images of the World Trade

1472
01:15:35,790 --> 01:15:33,730
Center and I looked at and all the

1473
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:35,800
streets and and everything you know I

1474
01:15:41,420 --> 01:15:37,930
plotted everything out and I found that

1475
01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:41,430
building and the building was not behind

1476
01:15:46,950 --> 01:15:43,900
the World Trade Center it there's a

1477
01:15:48,750 --> 01:15:46,960
section of that where it kind of looks

1478
01:15:50,730 --> 01:15:48,760
like it's off in the distance and then

1479
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:50,740
of course then how could the the wing

1480
01:15:57,810 --> 01:15:54,610
disappear well I went and looked myself

1481
01:16:02,520 --> 01:15:57,820
and that building is indeed in the

1482
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:02,530
foreground and that that stopped it in

1483
01:16:08,730 --> 01:16:06,010
its tracks for me but yet there are

1484
01:16:11,370 --> 01:16:08,740
those out there that want to say that

1485
01:16:14,690 --> 01:16:11,380
you know all of this video was

1486
01:16:17,610 --> 01:16:14,700
manipulated and it was CGI and it's CGI

1487
01:16:23,610 --> 01:16:17,620
artifacts in the film and and in the

1488
01:16:26,220 --> 01:16:23,620
video but that part of it kind of you

1489
01:16:28,020 --> 01:16:26,230
know kills that part of of these

1490
01:16:32,430 --> 01:16:28,030
conspiracy theories I'm not here to

1491
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:32,440
debunk I'm trying to figure this out

1492
01:16:35,750 --> 01:16:34,090
just like everybody else and if you're

1493
01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:35,760
gonna say that this video did

1494
01:16:41,790 --> 01:16:39,700
definitively says this when clearly that

1495
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:41,800
building is down in the background it is

1496
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:47,950
in the foreground then it ruins other

1497
01:16:53,190 --> 01:16:50,590
ideas that may be put out there because

1498
01:16:57,900 --> 01:16:53,200
you are suggesting something that isn't

1499
01:16:59,850 --> 01:16:57,910
real and it kills the other theories

1500
01:17:03,270 --> 01:16:59,860
that were able to get out there and put

1501
01:17:06,090 --> 01:17:03,280
on the table exactly I mean but you know

1502
01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:06,100
when you think about the science of

1503
01:17:10,350 --> 01:17:08,020
evaluating a theory you know a theory is

1504
01:17:11,910 --> 01:17:10,360
basically a story it's an explanation do

1505
01:17:13,650 --> 01:17:11,920
you got all these phenomenon happening

1506
01:17:15,870 --> 01:17:13,660
so you need an explanation to explain

1507
01:17:18,030 --> 01:17:15,880
how all these phenomena work together

1508
01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:18,040
and as soon as there's a discrepancy

1509
01:17:21,810 --> 01:17:19,630
then you know you have to re-examine a

1510
01:17:23,190 --> 01:17:21,820
theory and you know that particular Veda

1511
01:17:24,780 --> 01:17:23,200
actually remember seeing that video

1512
01:17:27,570 --> 01:17:24,790
footage that was one when I was looking

1513
01:17:30,210 --> 01:17:27,580
through that that's aspect of the

1514
01:17:32,940 --> 01:17:30,220
explanation you know is a series of

1515
01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:32,950
holographic projections or doctor

1516
01:17:36,030 --> 01:17:34,450
footage I remember seeing that video

1517
01:17:38,370 --> 01:17:36,040
Mike well that looks pretty good and

1518
01:17:40,500 --> 01:17:38,380
then I happen to see a second follow-up

1519
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:40,510
video of a guy doing exactly what you

1520
01:17:44,340 --> 01:17:42,850
said who had a better to take an

1521
01:17:45,690 --> 01:17:44,350
understanding of where these buildings

1522
01:17:47,970 --> 01:17:45,700
were actually placed and you realized

1523
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:47,980
that the the theory itself was based on

1524
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:50,050
a fallacious points which is that this

1525
01:17:54,030 --> 01:17:51,730
building was in the foreground was

1526
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:54,040
actually in the background so you know

1527
01:17:57,870 --> 01:17:55,810
what when we consider these theories

1528
01:17:59,400 --> 01:17:57,880
it's not that we're trying to to

1529
01:18:01,770 --> 01:17:59,410
railroad all of them

1530
01:18:03,900 --> 01:18:01,780
except for the our pet theory we're more

1531
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:03,910
so just throwing out ideas throwing out

1532
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:06,070
possibilities and discussing how likely

1533
01:18:10,170 --> 01:18:08,410
one is versus another doesn't mean we're

1534
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:10,180
it were in a black and white mood of

1535
01:18:12,810 --> 01:18:11,410
thinking we're trying to say one is

1536
01:18:16,020 --> 01:18:12,820
definitely right when all the rest of

1537
01:18:17,310 --> 01:18:16,030
law well then we have the other part one

1538
01:18:19,260 --> 01:18:17,320
we're talking about these planes or

1539
01:18:24,450 --> 01:18:19,270
Holograms or you know holographic

1540
01:18:28,980 --> 01:18:24,460
projections the the explosion let's say

1541
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:28,990
it well then how did the shape of the

1542
01:18:36,390 --> 01:18:32,290
plane form on the building as it

1543
01:18:38,970 --> 01:18:36,400
exploded that that's the part where I'm

1544
01:18:40,830 --> 01:18:38,980
a little bit confused here the the

1545
01:18:42,410 --> 01:18:40,840
debris is there the the parts are

1546
01:18:44,850 --> 01:18:42,420
falling onto the street people are

1547
01:18:47,610 --> 01:18:44,860
watching the explosion if the plane

1548
01:18:50,250 --> 01:18:47,620
wasn't real then how was the explosion

1549
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:50,260
caused with the outline of the plane

1550
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:54,510
clearly on the outside of the building

1551
01:19:00,120 --> 01:18:57,610
exactly yeah so I mean you if you add up

1552
01:19:02,910 --> 01:19:00,130
all of the evidence that's available you

1553
01:19:04,380 --> 01:19:02,920
know the video footage the debris the

1554
01:19:06,450 --> 01:19:04,390
hole in the side of the building you

1555
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:06,460
know the sound of the building the

1556
01:19:10,590 --> 01:19:08,530
claims in building then it really starts

1557
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:10,600
to call into question that these are

1558
01:19:14,910 --> 01:19:12,850
holographic projections unless they had

1559
01:19:18,270 --> 01:19:14,920
speakers that were perfectly calibrated

1560
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:18,280
in tune so that when the projection hit

1561
01:19:23,190 --> 01:19:20,770
the building the sound emitted from that

1562
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:23,200
place and this it had actually been a

1563
01:19:26,670 --> 01:19:24,970
genuine explosion but I mean this is

1564
01:19:29,340 --> 01:19:26,680
really difficult stuff to pull off

1565
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:29,350
so it's certainly possible but I think

1566
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:30,640
given all the other available evidence

1567
01:19:36,030 --> 01:19:33,280
it really this one is the less likely of

1568
01:19:38,460 --> 01:19:36,040
a possibility I would say now moving on

1569
01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:38,470
as we talked about knowing this in

1570
01:19:44,250 --> 01:19:42,070
advance and having this being a huge

1571
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:44,260
conspiracy where there are a lot of

1572
01:19:48,420 --> 01:19:45,970
people involved inside and outside of

1573
01:19:53,250 --> 01:19:48,430
the United States and the media being

1574
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:53,260
involved is the question of news reports

1575
01:19:59,070 --> 01:19:55,810
and the timing of them going down on TV

1576
01:20:01,620 --> 01:19:59,080
versus what people were actually seeing

1577
01:20:09,060 --> 01:20:01,630
outside in real time

1578
01:20:11,010 --> 01:20:09,070
for example the actor Dan Fogler who was

1579
01:20:15,540 --> 01:20:11,020
a guest on this show

1580
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:15,550
star of Don peyote and of the the ping

1581
01:20:20,939 --> 01:20:18,400
pong movie too as well I'll think of the

1582
01:20:26,570 --> 01:20:20,949
name of that here in just a second but

1583
01:20:30,209 --> 01:20:26,580
he was he was here and he's really into

1584
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:30,219
conspiracy theory and and all of this

1585
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:35,770
and it was started and this was what he

1586
01:20:43,050 --> 01:20:38,290
said on this program was started on

1587
01:20:47,790 --> 01:20:43,060
September 11th 2001 because he was in

1588
01:20:50,010 --> 01:20:47,800
his apartment in New York 9/11 is going

1589
01:20:54,630 --> 01:20:50,020
down he can see the World Trade Centers

1590
01:20:58,770 --> 01:20:54,640
outside and then he hears a reporter say

1591
01:21:02,580 --> 01:20:58,780
on TV that one of the buildings just

1592
01:21:04,110 --> 01:21:02,590
fell down and he walks out and he's

1593
01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:04,120
looking and the buildings are still

1594
01:21:12,979 --> 01:21:08,860
there Wow so that that for him was the

1595
01:21:15,810 --> 01:21:12,989
start of his travel down this road

1596
01:21:18,419 --> 01:21:15,820
because he knew what he was hearing on

1597
01:21:21,660 --> 01:21:18,429
TV versus what he was seeing with his

1598
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:21,670
own eyes were two different things he

1599
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:24,010
still doesn't understand how how that

1600
01:21:30,750 --> 01:21:27,760
happened but he is convinced that he was

1601
01:21:33,899 --> 01:21:30,760
told on TV that one of the World Trade

1602
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:33,909
Centers just fell so he went out went

1603
01:21:41,010 --> 01:21:36,730
out to look out his window to see it and

1604
01:21:42,570 --> 01:21:41,020
the building was still there right so

1605
01:21:45,590 --> 01:21:42,580
how do you explain that and you know

1606
01:21:48,090 --> 01:21:45,600
obviously in a situation like that the

1607
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:48,100
media is tipped off they know what's

1608
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:49,330
gonna happen they know that the

1609
01:21:53,430 --> 01:21:50,710
buildings are gonna collapse I mean I'm

1610
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:53,440
sure another example that goes in tandem

1611
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,360
with the one you just mentioned and I

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01:22:00,060 --> 01:21:58,239
had heard of that one is I'm sure

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01:22:03,330 --> 01:22:00,070
everybody remembers the footage of the

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01:22:06,570 --> 01:22:03,340
BBC reporter saying that World Trade

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01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:06,580
Center Trade Center 7 had just collapsed

1616
01:22:10,649 --> 01:22:08,710
but in the background is the World Trade

1617
01:22:11,189 --> 01:22:10,659
Center building collapsed it's still

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01:22:14,220 --> 01:22:11,199
standing

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01:22:16,500 --> 01:22:14,230
so there's another glaring example of

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01:22:18,030 --> 01:22:16,510
the media somehow knowing before the

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01:22:19,830 --> 01:22:18,040
rest of us before these even events even

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01:22:21,330 --> 01:22:19,840
happened before the building collapse

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01:22:24,050 --> 01:22:21,340
that these buildings you're in a

1624
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:24,060
collapse so what's going on there

1625
01:22:28,580 --> 01:22:26,730
and the I'm watching Twitter right now

1626
01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:28,590
because everybody is talking about that

1627
01:22:33,230 --> 01:22:30,960
and the BBC and the video which I have

1628
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:33,240
the link here I don't know if I can

1629
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:35,280
clear played on the show without you

1630
01:22:39,380 --> 01:22:37,410
know being shut down but I'm gonna check

1631
01:22:43,490 --> 01:22:39,390
it out during the break and maybe we'll

1632
01:22:47,450 --> 01:22:43,500
play the audio from it but everybody is

1633
01:22:48,470 --> 01:22:47,460
aware of that BBC footage why is it

1634
01:22:52,850 --> 01:22:48,480
Justin

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01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:52,860
that more isn't made of that today how

1636
01:22:59,560 --> 01:22:56,310
is how is the media allowed to escape in

1637
01:23:02,510 --> 01:22:59,570
and the BBC and certainly Washington

1638
01:23:07,610 --> 01:23:02,520
when this is an obvious point that is

1639
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:07,620
caught on tape well I mean that in order

1640
01:23:12,770 --> 01:23:09,210
to answer that question we have to think

1641
01:23:15,140 --> 01:23:12,780
about how people come to know what they

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01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:15,150
believe and because of the destruction

1643
01:23:19,220 --> 01:23:17,490
of critical thinking and people really

1644
01:23:22,940 --> 01:23:19,230
understanding their beliefs we have this

1645
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:22,950
kind of like you know mass mind control

1646
01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,530
social indoctrination program so most

1647
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:28,080
people believe things I actually just a

1648
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:29,280
friend of mine wrote a book about

1649
01:23:35,930 --> 01:23:33,210
persuasion and he said that if 7 people

1650
01:23:37,820 --> 01:23:35,940
tell you the same fact and these 7

1651
01:23:40,430 --> 01:23:37,830
people don't seem to be connected to

1652
01:23:42,340 --> 01:23:40,440
each other then subconsciously it's

1653
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:42,350
highly likely you will start to believe

1654
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:46,170
whatever fact that is as being true so

1655
01:23:50,750 --> 01:23:48,330
we have a situation where most people

1656
01:23:52,460 --> 01:23:50,760
don't really know why they believe

1657
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:52,470
things to be true especially when it

1658
01:23:56,030 --> 01:23:54,090
comes from the news how many people fact

1659
01:23:58,580 --> 01:23:56,040
track news stories you know not Molly

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01:24:00,770 --> 01:23:58,590
not that many so it's a situation I

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01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:00,780
would say where the vast majority of the

1662
01:24:05,090 --> 01:24:03,210
population believes something is true

1663
01:24:07,100 --> 01:24:05,100
then because a lot of other people

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01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:07,110
believe it then they just buy into it

1665
01:24:10,850 --> 01:24:08,970
and then nobody ever fact checks nobody

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01:24:12,650 --> 01:24:10,860
asked questions because I mean the other

1667
01:24:14,510 --> 01:24:12,660
aspects of it too is that you start

1668
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:14,520
asking questions now you start to label

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01:24:18,470 --> 01:24:16,770
yourself as an outsider and nobody wants

1670
01:24:21,230 --> 01:24:18,480
to be cast out of whatever their social

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01:24:22,700 --> 01:24:21,240
group is so there's a big sociological

1672
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:22,710
and psychological component to that I

1673
01:24:29,650 --> 01:24:26,130
feel like the we're gonna head towards a

1674
01:24:33,459 --> 01:24:29,660
break right here but the the

1675
01:24:36,609 --> 01:24:33,469
foreknowledge part of

1676
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:36,619
9/11 is is well-documented we're going

1677
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:39,130
to visit that when we come back we have

1678
01:24:47,529 --> 01:24:44,090
the oil and petroleum issue that is is

1679
01:24:50,799 --> 01:24:47,539
right there in front of us we have the

1680
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:50,809
fact that the building's fell down the

1681
01:24:56,620 --> 01:24:54,130
way that they did without really any

1682
01:24:58,180 --> 01:24:56,630
explanation of that and the engineering

1683
01:25:00,520 --> 01:24:58,190
behind it that would allow this type of

1684
01:25:03,910 --> 01:25:00,530
collapse we have that we have the

1685
01:25:06,219 --> 01:25:03,920
passport we have bin Laden's family

1686
01:25:09,819 --> 01:25:06,229
being flown out of the country we have a

1687
01:25:12,549 --> 01:25:09,829
long list of things here that are right

1688
01:25:14,649 --> 01:25:12,559
out there in front of us but yet I don't

1689
01:25:19,629 --> 01:25:14,659
think there is anybody in the mainstream

1690
01:25:22,870 --> 01:25:19,639
that is brave enough to step up and

1691
01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:22,880
question this we need shows like this to

1692
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:26,719
keep the story alive why is that Justin

1693
01:25:34,689 --> 01:25:31,130
why why won't a brave mainstream

1694
01:25:38,529 --> 01:25:34,699
journalist step up and ask the questions

1695
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:38,539
that need to be asked well I'm certainly

1696
01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:40,130
glad that you're asking and you know

1697
01:25:43,719 --> 01:25:42,289
praise be that we could have an outlet

1698
01:25:45,310 --> 01:25:43,729
like this well we can have these frank

1699
01:25:48,850 --> 01:25:45,320
and open discussions because it's

1700
01:25:51,549 --> 01:25:48,860
essential I mean I would say that we're

1701
01:25:54,310 --> 01:25:51,559
living in a time where the media is not

1702
01:25:56,620 --> 01:25:54,320
really here to report the facts or

1703
01:25:58,600 --> 01:25:56,630
engage us in meaningful discussion about

1704
01:26:00,759 --> 01:25:58,610
what's happening our reality I mean I

1705
01:26:02,350 --> 01:26:00,769
think that's a an obvious point to most

1706
01:26:04,959 --> 01:26:02,360
people who are awake is that the media

1707
01:26:07,719 --> 01:26:04,969
is here to control our reality be this

1708
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:07,729
an Augmented or manipulated form of

1709
01:26:12,129 --> 01:26:09,489
reality and manipulated narrative and

1710
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:12,139
you know to go against that to question

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01:26:17,049 --> 01:26:15,170
that is it means to be excommunicated I

1712
01:26:18,430 --> 01:26:17,059
mean look at Ben Swann the guy started

1713
01:26:20,979 --> 01:26:18,440
reporting on a whole bunch of things

1714
01:26:22,989 --> 01:26:20,989
he got censored you know there's various

1715
01:26:25,870 --> 01:26:22,999
other reporters who kind of stepped out

1716
01:26:28,810 --> 01:26:25,880
of line and they end up getting censored

1717
01:26:31,989 --> 01:26:28,820
so these guys have a death grip on the

1718
01:26:34,959 --> 01:26:31,999
media and it's incredibly important that

1719
01:26:36,489 --> 01:26:34,969
they have that because everybody's basis

1720
01:26:38,830 --> 01:26:36,499
for behaving in the world is all

1721
01:26:40,989 --> 01:26:38,840
dependent on what they think is real so

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01:26:42,580 --> 01:26:40,999
if you can control a person sense of

1723
01:26:44,709 --> 01:26:42,590
reality then you can basically control

1724
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:44,719
of course and that's why the media is so

1725
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:47,290
important to maintain control of

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01:26:55,250 --> 01:26:49,630
when we come back we're gonna talk about

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01:26:58,140 --> 01:26:55,260
the Pentagon and again one of the

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01:27:02,400 --> 01:26:58,150
strangest when we look at everything

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01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:02,410
that has been presented to us what we

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01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:05,290
are supposed to accept as true and we

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01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:07,210
look at all of the other evidence around

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01:27:16,830 --> 01:27:07,690
it

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01:27:19,380 --> 01:27:16,840
I really do we're gonna discuss that

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welcome back fade to black cameo super

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are up it Jimmy Church radio calm

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today is September 11th and we are

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01:32:35,140 --> 01:32:30,290
discussing every angle of what happened

1826
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:35,150
on that day in 2001 and I have the video

1827
01:32:42,580 --> 01:32:40,910
up here Justin of the BBC and I'm gonna

1828
01:32:44,530 --> 01:32:42,590
I'm gonna play it I don't know exactly

1829
01:32:48,450 --> 01:32:44,540
what's gonna happen I haven't seen this

1830
01:32:51,970 --> 01:32:48,460
in advance but let's uh check this out

1831
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:51,980
now more on the latest building collapse

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01:32:55,630 --> 01:32:53,570
in New York you might have heard a few

1833
01:32:57,970 --> 01:32:55,640
moments ago is talking about the Salomon

1834
01:32:59,560 --> 01:32:57,980
Brothers building collapsing and indeed

1835
01:33:01,960 --> 01:32:59,570
it has it seems that this was not a

1836
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:01,970
result of a new attack it was because

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01:33:06,370 --> 01:33:04,850
the building had been weakened during

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01:33:08,530 --> 01:33:06,380
this morning's attacks we'll probably

1839
01:33:10,810 --> 01:33:08,540
find out more now about that from our

1840
01:33:12,820 --> 01:33:10,820
correspondent Jane Standley Jane what

1841
01:33:15,270 --> 01:33:12,830
more can you tell us about the Salomon

1842
01:33:18,070 --> 01:33:15,280
Brothers building and its collapse

1843
01:33:20,590 --> 01:33:18,080
well only really what you already know

1844
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:20,600
details are very very sketchy as you can

1845
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:23,810
see behind me the Trade Center appears

1846
01:33:28,780 --> 01:33:25,610
to be still burning we see the huge

1847
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:28,790
clouds of smoke and ash and we know that

1848
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:31,760
behind that there's an empty piece of

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01:33:37,030 --> 01:33:34,250
what was a very familiar New York

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01:33:40,210 --> 01:33:37,040
skyline a symbol of the financial

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01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:40,220
prosperity of this city but completely

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01:33:45,490 --> 01:33:43,010
disappeared now and New York is still

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01:33:48,070 --> 01:33:45,500
unable to take on board what has

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01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:48,080
happened to them today presumably there

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01:33:51,940 --> 01:33:49,970
were very few people in the Solomon

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01:33:54,310 --> 01:33:51,950
building when it collapsed I mean there

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01:33:58,570 --> 01:33:54,320
were I suppose fears of possible further

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01:34:01,330 --> 01:33:58,580
collapses and wow that's what you were I

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01:34:09,610 --> 01:34:01,340
guess they what do you think it's

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01:34:11,229 --> 01:34:09,620
standing behind her now this is what we

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01:34:11,980 --> 01:34:11,239
heard the news perhaps on the radio

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01:34:15,730 --> 01:34:11,990
earlier

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01:34:18,850 --> 01:34:15,740
they were completely flabbergasted by

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01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:18,860
its and okay so I'm gonna stop this

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01:34:29,140 --> 01:34:24,410
right here the the reporter she steps

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01:34:31,570 --> 01:34:29,150
away to show where the north and south

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01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:31,580
towers were behind her right she steps

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01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:38,650
away and there is WTC 7 WTC 7 is clearly

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01:34:46,090 --> 01:34:42,530
standing right there as as they're

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talking about this now without breaking

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01:34:55,030 --> 01:34:49,670
this down and how this possibly could be

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01:34:59,350 --> 01:34:55,040
maybe debunked or how I'm not so sure by

1873
01:35:02,800 --> 01:34:59,360
looking at this video that it can be

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01:35:05,290 --> 01:35:02,810
debunked the right they just reported

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01:35:08,170 --> 01:35:05,300
that the building had fallen they cut to

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01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:08,180
a live report with her and she backs

1877
01:35:12,010 --> 01:35:11,570
away to show the background and there it

1878
01:35:25,030 --> 01:35:12,020
is

1879
01:35:27,460 --> 01:35:25,040
were told to report in advance and that

1880
01:35:29,530 --> 01:35:27,470
the building was going to come down and

1881
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:29,540
they just messed up and reported too

1882
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:33,410
soon I I think that's probably a glaring

1883
01:35:39,490 --> 01:35:37,610
example I mean we know already that you

1884
01:35:41,620 --> 01:35:39,500
know the same type of narratives and

1885
01:35:43,330 --> 01:35:41,630
scripts are handed out to local media

1886
01:35:45,010 --> 01:35:43,340
outlets so there's a bunch of videos out

1887
01:35:47,230 --> 01:35:45,020
there about that people just literally

1888
01:35:49,690 --> 01:35:47,240
reading off the script so what probably

1889
01:35:51,670 --> 01:35:49,700
happens is they got tipped off that the

1890
01:35:54,730 --> 01:35:51,680
building had collapsed and it was just

1891
01:35:56,290 --> 01:35:54,740
once the the coffee was in the press

1892
01:35:58,450 --> 01:35:56,300
people's hands had just moved through

1893
01:36:01,600 --> 01:35:58,460
the paces and ended up in front of the

1894
01:36:03,220 --> 01:36:01,610
Talking Heads so but I mean it that it

1895
01:36:06,970 --> 01:36:03,230
would be really hard to debunk something

1896
01:36:09,820 --> 01:36:06,980
like that because the woman in the field

1897
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:09,830
is standing right in front of the tower

1898
01:36:14,980 --> 01:36:12,770
World Trade Center 7 the the guy in the

1899
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:14,990
studio saying hey this building Hut was

1900
01:36:18,910 --> 01:36:17,090
collapsed or collapsed but you're seeing

1901
01:36:21,190 --> 01:36:18,920
it right in front of it right in front

1902
01:36:22,930 --> 01:36:21,200
of her that it's obviously there so how

1903
01:36:24,850 --> 01:36:22,940
one could could debunk this I mean have

1904
01:36:25,230 --> 01:36:24,860
to go through a lot of mental Hoops to

1905
01:36:27,180 --> 01:36:25,240
do

1906
01:36:31,290 --> 01:36:27,190
but it's one of those glaring examples I

1907
01:36:34,020 --> 01:36:31,300
feel like now with let's move over to

1908
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:34,030
the Pentagon and I have a lot of issues

1909
01:36:43,610 --> 01:36:39,010
here too as well now yeah yeah the first

1910
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:43,620
thing that I I find it hard to

1911
01:36:51,870 --> 01:36:47,770
understand is how an amateur pilot could

1912
01:36:56,190 --> 01:36:51,880
control a commercial jetliner and fly it

1913
01:36:58,260 --> 01:36:56,200
that low and and manage to to pull that

1914
01:37:00,990 --> 01:36:58,270
off and and hit the building it's one

1915
01:37:03,420 --> 01:37:01,000
thing to discuss hitting one of the

1916
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:03,430
World Trade Centers but those are up in

1917
01:37:09,690 --> 01:37:05,890
the air hundred stories in the air it's

1918
01:37:13,110 --> 01:37:09,700
a it's a big target here you need to fly

1919
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:13,120
into a city and bring the plane down to

1920
01:37:20,340 --> 01:37:16,930
ground level and and get it to hit the

1921
01:37:22,770 --> 01:37:20,350
side of the Pentagon that we're gonna

1922
01:37:26,070 --> 01:37:22,780
discuss other aspects of it but that

1923
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:26,080
must be difficult even for the best most

1924
01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:29,410
professional pilot to pull off well yeah

1925
01:37:32,940 --> 01:37:31,330
I mean and the missile if you look at

1926
01:37:35,250 --> 01:37:32,950
the trajectory the thing was literally

1927
01:37:36,750 --> 01:37:35,260
like 10 or 20 feet off of the ground I

1928
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:36,760
think it hit like the second floor of

1929
01:37:41,490 --> 01:37:38,110
the building a second stored in the

1930
01:37:44,250 --> 01:37:41,500
building so how you somebody managed to

1931
01:37:47,850 --> 01:37:44,260
turn around perfectly line up along the

1932
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:47,860
target come through and and and land

1933
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:49,810
hover over the ground and then on top of

1934
01:37:53,370 --> 01:37:52,030
that there are telephone poles there's

1935
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:53,380
light poles there's all these other

1936
01:37:56,970 --> 01:37:55,930
objects obstacles in the way how they

1937
01:38:00,210 --> 01:37:56,980
managed to cut through all that

1938
01:38:02,220 --> 01:38:00,220
perfectly and then smash into the side

1939
01:38:04,470 --> 01:38:02,230
of the Pentagon and leave no debris

1940
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:04,480
whatsoever the plane just like a demise

1941
01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:06,550
when it hit the building I mean how does

1942
01:38:12,930 --> 01:38:07,360
that happen

1943
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:12,940
the the Pentagon and Washington DC has

1944
01:38:21,150 --> 01:38:16,410
to be one of the most videotape and

1945
01:38:26,910 --> 01:38:21,160
security-camera places on on earth yep

1946
01:38:28,470 --> 01:38:26,920
okay why hasn't anybody come forward

1947
01:38:31,530 --> 01:38:28,480
with videotape

1948
01:38:32,910 --> 01:38:31,540
now I understand suppressing and the

1949
01:38:36,900 --> 01:38:32,920
government going around and not

1950
01:38:38,009 --> 01:38:36,910
releasing their video but there must be

1951
01:38:41,450 --> 01:38:38,019
video

1952
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:41,460
in private hands nothing has surfaced

1953
01:38:46,140 --> 01:38:44,050
not yet they even common beer I think

1954
01:38:47,549 --> 01:38:46,150
there was a holiday in or double three

1955
01:38:50,700 --> 01:38:47,559
or something like that across the street

1956
01:38:52,890 --> 01:38:50,710
and they released some of their footage

1957
01:38:55,529 --> 01:38:52,900
which I think has survived in a few

1958
01:38:58,049 --> 01:38:55,539
obscure places online somewhere but that

1959
01:38:59,609 --> 01:38:58,059
was quickly confiscated by the FBI so

1960
01:39:01,529 --> 01:38:59,619
yeah all of the all of the footage that

1961
01:39:04,739 --> 01:39:01,539
was from that event was completely

1962
01:39:07,890 --> 01:39:04,749
scrubbed from the public record how is

1963
01:39:13,049 --> 01:39:07,900
it is it well obviously it happened but

1964
01:39:15,089 --> 01:39:13,059
is it possible that there is no footage

1965
01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:15,099
of it that's the first question

1966
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:21,249
and the second thing is is there no

1967
01:39:28,169 --> 01:39:25,090
plane that hit the Pentagon that's

1968
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:28,179
that's the other aspect of it you know I

1969
01:39:34,399 --> 01:39:31,210
I know that there is talks of of a

1970
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:34,409
missile now if if it was a missile that

1971
01:39:42,330 --> 01:39:38,050
would explain nobody's seeing a plane

1972
01:39:45,379 --> 01:39:42,340
and and no video of a plane okay alright

1973
01:39:48,750 --> 01:39:45,389
so that I know we're getting out there

1974
01:39:51,930 --> 01:39:48,760
but if it was a missile now we are

1975
01:39:55,739 --> 01:39:51,940
talking about a very very heavy

1976
01:39:58,020 --> 01:39:55,749
conspiracy and and a real false flag one

1977
01:40:01,649 --> 01:39:58,030
that raises big concerns for this

1978
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:01,659
country certainly well in line with that

1979
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:04,480
I happen to find a quote from a major

1980
01:40:09,750 --> 01:40:06,159
general Albert Stubblebine

1981
01:40:12,810 --> 01:40:09,760
and he says I quote I saw a missile

1982
01:40:15,239 --> 01:40:12,820
hitting the Pentagon not a plane all of

1983
01:40:17,129 --> 01:40:15,249
the sensors were turned off that day one

1984
01:40:19,410 --> 01:40:17,139
apparently did not turn off and it shows

1985
01:40:21,689 --> 01:40:19,420
this object hits the Pentagon it did not

1986
01:40:24,839 --> 01:40:21,699
look like an airplane so here we have a

1987
01:40:26,729 --> 01:40:24,849
general a Major General coming forward

1988
01:40:28,529 --> 01:40:26,739
to say that there was definitely not an

1989
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:28,539
airplane it was a missile so that

1990
01:40:32,850 --> 01:40:30,610
although we might not have footage we do

1991
01:40:35,100 --> 01:40:32,860
have testimony like this that adds a lot

1992
01:40:36,540 --> 01:40:35,110
of credibility to the notion that there

1993
01:40:39,569 --> 01:40:36,550
wasn't actually a plane at all it was a

1994
01:40:44,419 --> 01:40:39,579
missile yeah he goes on to say at each

1995
01:40:47,910 --> 01:40:44,429
floor major general Albert Stubblebine

1996
01:40:51,089 --> 01:40:47,920
exactly so I mean there are people who

1997
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:51,099
have come out and dropped testimony out

1998
01:40:54,150 --> 01:40:51,850
there that Ray

1999
01:40:56,730 --> 01:40:54,160
there's a lot of questions and you know

2000
01:40:58,380 --> 01:40:56,740
again if you I forget the video I saw I

2001
01:41:01,800 --> 01:40:58,390
wish I could remember but somebody had

2002
01:41:04,170 --> 01:41:01,810
done a reconstruction of the the attack

2003
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:04,180
on the Pentagon and they placed all of

2004
01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:06,730
the the telephone pole cameras the

2005
01:41:11,580 --> 01:41:09,550
fencing all that and all of these things

2006
01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:11,590
the plane would have had to just move

2007
01:41:15,300 --> 01:41:13,990
through as if it wasn't even a physical

2008
01:41:17,220 --> 01:41:15,310
object like it was a ghost

2009
01:41:19,470 --> 01:41:17,230
and then somehow materialized right

2010
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:19,480
before it hits the side of the building

2011
01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:21,730
because there's these telephone poles

2012
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:22,960
and these light poles would have super

2013
01:41:26,130 --> 01:41:24,250
banged up the wings that you know

2014
01:41:27,780 --> 01:41:26,140
obviously something that clean hit

2015
01:41:29,370 --> 01:41:27,790
building that fast hitting a telephone

2016
01:41:32,430 --> 01:41:29,380
pole it throw it off its trajectory

2017
01:41:34,590 --> 01:41:32,440
things like those so there's a glaring

2018
01:41:36,270 --> 01:41:34,600
amount of I would say circumstantial

2019
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:36,280
evidence to suggest that there is

2020
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:38,050
definitely not an airplane there there

2021
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:40,150
was something else going on I have a I

2022
01:41:46,740 --> 01:41:44,170
have another issue that I and this is

2023
01:41:48,990 --> 01:41:46,750
just me before I go and say this was a

2024
01:41:52,620 --> 01:41:49,000
missile this was a false flag this was

2025
01:41:55,530 --> 01:41:52,630
planned let's just say for a moment that

2026
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:55,540
it was it was what it was it was a

2027
01:42:01,110 --> 01:41:58,090
hijacker he grabbed control of the plane

2028
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:01,120
he flew it he managed to fly it into the

2029
01:42:06,510 --> 01:42:03,610
Pentagon if we go with that

2030
01:42:11,190 --> 01:42:06,520
and I'm looking at the size of the plane

2031
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:11,200
where it would there I couldn't see

2032
01:42:16,530 --> 01:42:14,080
anywhere and I've looked at lots of

2033
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:16,540
photographs and if I'm wrong and if

2034
01:42:20,610 --> 01:42:18,130
somebody has got something else I need

2035
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:20,620
to see fine send it to me and I'll stand

2036
01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:21,280
corrected

2037
01:42:26,820 --> 01:42:24,490
but there's no marks in the grass there

2038
01:42:29,820 --> 01:42:26,830
isn't a long track mark it seems like

2039
01:42:33,330 --> 01:42:29,830
the plane engines would have dragged on

2040
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:33,340
the grass for hundreds of yards and we

2041
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:35,890
would have seen evidence of that and

2042
01:42:42,060 --> 01:42:39,010
that everything that I have seen of the

2043
01:42:46,410 --> 01:42:42,070
Pentagon there isn't anything there I'm

2044
01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:46,420
just asking for something to to clear my

2045
01:42:53,430 --> 01:42:48,910
mind on this that's all and I'm cool I

2046
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:53,440
can move forward but there isn't a long

2047
01:42:59,400 --> 01:42:56,410
gouge in front of the Pentagon where

2048
01:43:03,350 --> 01:42:59,410
this plane you know or and the reason

2049
01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:03,360
why I bring this up it seems to me that

2050
01:43:11,470 --> 01:43:05,810
the the plane was

2051
01:43:13,330 --> 01:43:11,480
have not been steady in that it would

2052
01:43:16,210 --> 01:43:13,340
have hit the ground come up hit the

2053
01:43:18,430 --> 01:43:16,220
ground gouged left left to mark and then

2054
01:43:22,480 --> 01:43:18,440
hit the Pentagon instead of a nice

2055
01:43:26,050 --> 01:43:22,490
smooth arc straight in by a professional

2056
01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:26,060
pilot right I understand what yelling

2057
01:43:30,910 --> 01:43:28,970
horse I mean anybody who's flown in an

2058
01:43:33,580 --> 01:43:30,920
airplane you know at least a handful of

2059
01:43:35,950 --> 01:43:33,590
times know that the moment before the

2060
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:35,960
plane touches the ground they're

2061
01:43:39,250 --> 01:43:37,610
basically like in freefall they're

2062
01:43:40,750 --> 01:43:39,260
trying to keep that thing hovering off

2063
01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:40,760
of the ground and then when they hit the

2064
01:43:44,590 --> 01:43:43,310
ground the planes jostling around and

2065
01:43:46,660 --> 01:43:44,600
it's correcting itself and it's trying

2066
01:43:48,760 --> 01:43:46,670
to stay in a straight line so you know

2067
01:43:51,040 --> 01:43:48,770
if this isn't an exact science when it

2068
01:43:53,530 --> 01:43:51,050
comes to getting a plane back close to

2069
01:43:56,380 --> 01:43:53,540
the ground you know it would you would

2070
01:43:58,660 --> 01:43:56,390
take a lot of discipline it would take a

2071
01:44:00,400 --> 01:43:58,670
tremendous amount of skill and effort

2072
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:00,410
but somebody to pull something like that

2073
01:44:04,090 --> 01:44:02,210
off and professional pilots have come

2074
01:44:08,410 --> 01:44:04,100
out and said that they couldn't even do

2075
01:44:12,340 --> 01:44:08,420
something like this see I'm looking at

2076
01:44:14,970 --> 01:44:12,350
Jim Kay just sent me a video it's up on

2077
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:14,980
Twitter you can look at it here of

2078
01:44:22,330 --> 01:44:16,850
something hitting the side of the

2079
01:44:24,190 --> 01:44:22,340
Pentagon and this is a this is pretty

2080
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:24,200
interesting I would like to see this

2081
01:44:34,300 --> 01:44:29,810
original link if this was posted by UFO

2082
01:44:36,820 --> 01:44:34,310
tweets Peter where's the original link

2083
01:44:37,510 --> 01:44:36,830
to this I would like to see this on a

2084
01:44:40,660 --> 01:44:37,520
big screen

2085
01:44:43,690 --> 01:44:40,670
I can't enlarge this here but that's

2086
01:44:46,330 --> 01:44:43,700
that's interesting so please send me the

2087
01:44:48,730 --> 01:44:46,340
original link to that and we can we can

2088
01:44:52,510 --> 01:44:48,740
check that out the but the point that

2089
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:52,520
you brought up earlier Justin which is

2090
01:44:59,680 --> 01:44:57,110
all of the telephone poles right and and

2091
01:45:03,760 --> 01:44:59,690
everything else that was in its way

2092
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:03,770
wasn't it all knocked down isn't there

2093
01:45:10,750 --> 01:45:07,370
evidence of this plane coming in I'm

2094
01:45:14,290 --> 01:45:10,760
talking about the wingspan and this is a

2095
01:45:17,290 --> 01:45:14,300
point that is it is as elemental as it

2096
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:17,300
sounds it's like an obvious question

2097
01:45:21,710 --> 01:45:18,810
that everybody has

2098
01:45:24,260 --> 01:45:21,720
the Pentagon we should see a debris

2099
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:24,270
field out in front of the Pentagon and

2100
01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:27,930
lots of damage before the planes struck

2101
01:45:33,530 --> 01:45:31,170
the side I don't want to take away from

2102
01:45:35,630 --> 01:45:33,540
all of the tragic deaths and and the

2103
01:45:37,480 --> 01:45:35,640
things that happen at the Pentagon and

2104
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:37,490
throughout the United States that day

2105
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:41,040
but these are questions that even the

2106
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:44,850
most basic of minds are asking what

2107
01:45:50,510 --> 01:45:47,130
about that have you seen any evidence of

2108
01:45:52,130 --> 01:45:50,520
of telephone poles and things that had

2109
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:52,140
to have been knocked down in front of

2110
01:45:55,850 --> 01:45:53,510
the Pentagon

2111
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:55,860
well that's the thing is they scrubbed

2112
01:45:59,660 --> 01:45:58,080
all the footage it was a it was

2113
01:46:00,950 --> 01:45:59,670
something where nobody could go in and

2114
01:46:03,530 --> 01:46:00,960
perform their own investigate and

2115
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:03,540
independent investigation so all of the

2116
01:46:06,860 --> 01:46:05,250
material I think this form I can

2117
01:46:09,020 --> 01:46:06,870
remember correctly after this thing hit

2118
01:46:11,450 --> 01:46:09,030
the Pentagon they went in there with

2119
01:46:13,220 --> 01:46:11,460
bulldozers they ripped up all the grass

2120
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:13,230
they tore everything out and that nobody

2121
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:14,910
could get in there and look for any type

2122
01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:16,890
of debris whatsoever and if it's the

2123
01:46:22,730 --> 01:46:20,490
Pentagon so it's a secure facility so as

2124
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:22,740
far as I can tell there's no evidence of

2125
01:46:28,130 --> 01:46:25,170
anything I mean all we have to work with

2126
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:28,140
is the fact that you know there was

2127
01:46:33,050 --> 01:46:30,210
reconstruction on the Pentagon that they

2128
01:46:34,490 --> 01:46:33,060
we have reports that the Pentagon was

2129
01:46:37,190 --> 01:46:34,500
set but as far as like direct evidence

2130
01:46:38,720 --> 01:46:37,200
that we can look to after the fact it's

2131
01:46:40,310 --> 01:46:38,730
all been scrubbed it's all been removed

2132
01:46:42,050 --> 01:46:40,320
and it's the good reason to do that it's

2133
01:46:43,250 --> 01:46:42,060
because then it that prevents people

2134
01:46:45,260 --> 01:46:43,260
from conducting their own investigation

2135
01:46:46,990 --> 01:46:45,270
in fact checking they certainly don't

2136
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:47,000
want to do that if there's some

2137
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:49,290
alternative story than the mainstream

2138
01:46:58,520 --> 01:46:54,560
narrative being pushed to the people the

2139
01:47:01,220 --> 01:46:58,530
here is a fact this is for mark Toronto

2140
01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:01,230
over in Australia's fact the plane can't

2141
01:47:09,730 --> 01:47:04,110
fly at the reported speed at that level

2142
01:47:12,620 --> 01:47:09,740
because the wings generate too much lift

2143
01:47:14,300 --> 01:47:12,630
great point that it's a grateful course

2144
01:47:17,420 --> 01:47:14,310
that would make a lot of sense he also

2145
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:17,430
says the plane allegedly flew through

2146
01:47:32,450 --> 01:47:30,930
five light poles now okay this is one of

2147
01:47:45,740 --> 01:47:32,460
the

2148
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:45,750
explains everything has never been

2149
01:47:51,770 --> 01:47:49,530
presented to us the one where everything

2150
01:47:54,170 --> 01:47:51,780
is out this is what happened here the

2151
01:47:55,729 --> 01:47:54,180
videos here's here's this here's the

2152
01:47:57,979 --> 01:47:55,739
timer here's this here's the radar

2153
01:48:00,560 --> 01:47:57,989
cross-section here it is flying across

2154
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:00,570
Washington DC here it is in Manhattan

2155
01:48:06,830 --> 01:48:04,530
that every the flight 93 we haven't even

2156
01:48:09,140 --> 01:48:06,840
addressed that point yet and we'll get

2157
01:48:11,690 --> 01:48:09,150
to that after the break but that's the

2158
01:48:13,459 --> 01:48:11,700
part for for all of us the reason why

2159
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:13,469
all of these questions are still out

2160
01:48:18,440 --> 01:48:16,290
there is because the clear story has

2161
01:48:22,390 --> 01:48:18,450
never been presented to us with

2162
01:48:26,630 --> 01:48:22,400
everything that we need to know exactly

2163
01:48:29,630 --> 01:48:26,640
so that's a glaring problem to take a

2164
01:48:31,790 --> 01:48:29,640
really hard line approach to this you

2165
01:48:34,490 --> 01:48:31,800
know how do we know if an explanation is

2166
01:48:36,370 --> 01:48:34,500
good how do we know if it actually is

2167
01:48:38,270 --> 01:48:36,380
valid well from a scientific perspective

2168
01:48:40,250 --> 01:48:38,280
you know when you're developing a

2169
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,260
scientific theory your theory has to

2170
01:48:45,050 --> 01:48:42,480
explain all of the observed phenomena

2171
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:45,060
and it has to do it well it has to do it

2172
01:48:50,450 --> 01:48:47,610
in in conjunction with other established

2173
01:48:52,430 --> 01:48:50,460
knowledge so if there's even one point

2174
01:48:54,950 --> 01:48:52,440
no matter how small no matter how

2175
01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:54,960
seemingly unimportant that isn't

2176
01:48:58,820 --> 01:48:57,090
properly explained in a theory or an

2177
01:49:00,800 --> 01:48:58,830
explanation then you have to call the

2178
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:00,810
whole theory into question and do an

2179
01:49:05,900 --> 01:49:02,489
evaluation so here we have a situation

2180
01:49:08,930 --> 01:49:05,910
where there's just piles and piles of

2181
01:49:11,570 --> 01:49:08,940
evidence and observation that contradict

2182
01:49:13,970 --> 01:49:11,580
the mainstream social narrative and so

2183
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:13,980
it's it's incumbent upon all of us who

2184
01:49:17,510 --> 01:49:15,410
actually want to seek the truth to

2185
01:49:19,190 --> 01:49:17,520
recognize these things and ask these

2186
01:49:21,350 --> 01:49:19,200
hardline questions and that that's why

2187
01:49:23,180 --> 01:49:21,360
this issue this 9/11 issues and going

2188
01:49:26,990 --> 01:49:23,190
away and just gaining momentum the time

2189
01:49:29,330 --> 01:49:27,000
goes on this was this email was just

2190
01:49:31,970 --> 01:49:29,340
sent in from Bernadette she says Jimmy

2191
01:49:34,700 --> 01:49:31,980
you were discussing factual evidence for

2192
01:49:37,459 --> 01:49:34,710
the 9/11 conspiracy a big one I'd like

2193
01:49:41,570 --> 01:49:37,469
to hear you discuss with Justin is the

2194
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:41,580
financial stock puts that had money

2195
01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:44,370
invested against the airliner how did

2196
01:49:49,070 --> 01:49:46,650
all top 20 corporations have money

2197
01:49:51,620 --> 01:49:49,080
invested on the tragedy of the specific

2198
01:49:55,459 --> 01:49:51,630
airliner and capitalized on the 9/11

2199
01:50:00,649 --> 01:49:55,469
tragedy financially and that's another I

2200
01:50:02,780 --> 01:50:00,659
read so much about that you brought up

2201
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:02,790
the insurance aspect but there was the

2202
01:50:11,240 --> 01:50:06,480
other part of this where the the stock

2203
01:50:13,899 --> 01:50:11,250
market had investment inputs against the

2204
01:50:16,430 --> 01:50:13,909
airliner now wait a minute here and

2205
01:50:19,669 --> 01:50:16,440
nobody wants to ask questions about this

2206
01:50:22,580 --> 01:50:19,679
what did you find out about that I will

2207
01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:22,590
follow the money I mean I I I saw a

2208
01:50:25,669 --> 01:50:24,239
documentary I believe it was called the

2209
01:50:27,380 --> 01:50:25,679
Ring of Power it's like a five-hour

2210
01:50:29,660 --> 01:50:27,390
documentary and the woman who put it

2211
01:50:31,490 --> 01:50:29,670
together did a painstaking job at

2212
01:50:33,290 --> 01:50:31,500
detailing all the financial connections

2213
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:33,300
and one of them she said was what you

2214
01:50:38,149 --> 01:50:35,489
just mentioned which is that certain

2215
01:50:41,090 --> 01:50:38,159
players in the stock market seems to

2216
01:50:43,010 --> 01:50:41,100
know in advance where to place their

2217
01:50:44,540 --> 01:50:43,020
money so that after this event happened

2218
01:50:46,399 --> 01:50:44,550
they would not only protect their assets

2219
01:50:47,500 --> 01:50:46,409
but make a boatload of money in the

2220
01:50:50,300 --> 01:50:47,510
process

2221
01:50:53,149 --> 01:50:50,310
vivo and some of these some of these

2222
01:50:58,459 --> 01:50:53,159
financial moves in the stock market were

2223
01:51:02,060 --> 01:50:58,469
done 1 to 2 weeks or more in advance and

2224
01:51:03,740 --> 01:51:02,070
specifically targeting that day right

2225
01:51:06,530 --> 01:51:03,750
exactly and that looks the way these

2226
01:51:09,470 --> 01:51:06,540
guys work I mean the financial system is

2227
01:51:11,899 --> 01:51:09,480
rigged of course but it's not completely

2228
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:11,909
an utterly rate I would say that it's

2229
01:51:16,630 --> 01:51:14,610
more allowed to unfold in a certain way

2230
01:51:18,860 --> 01:51:16,640
what they've really gotten good at is

2231
01:51:20,479 --> 01:51:18,870
manipulating world events and using

2232
01:51:22,490 --> 01:51:20,489
prediction software and very so their

2233
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:22,500
algorithms algorithms understand the

2234
01:51:25,729 --> 01:51:24,330
fluctuations to the market and obviously

2235
01:51:27,669 --> 01:51:25,739
if they've been planning this event for

2236
01:51:30,050 --> 01:51:27,679
years which by all accounts they have

2237
01:51:31,910 --> 01:51:30,060
then they're gonna put all their money

2238
01:51:33,800 --> 01:51:31,920
at certain places to make the most

2239
01:51:35,930 --> 01:51:33,810
amount of money possible and you know

2240
01:51:37,459 --> 01:51:35,940
there's a glaring evil that's a sort of

2241
01:51:38,990 --> 01:51:37,469
an conspiracy theory stuff you can go

2242
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:39,000
look up these records yourself and you

2243
01:51:47,390 --> 01:51:43,280
can see them for yourself the the hole

2244
01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:47,400
that was left in the side of the

2245
01:51:54,459 --> 01:51:51,510
Pentagon you look at that and then you

2246
01:51:57,439 --> 01:51:54,469
think about the size of the jetliner

2247
01:52:00,020 --> 01:51:57,449
two things come into play first one is

2248
01:52:03,290 --> 01:52:00,030
you just go well obviously that

2249
01:52:05,630 --> 01:52:03,300
the plane didn't do that that's the

2250
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:05,640
first thing that comes to mind but the

2251
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:08,970
second thing where I have to just back

2252
01:52:15,620 --> 01:52:11,520
up and think about the strength of the

2253
01:52:17,540 --> 01:52:15,630
Pentagon the marble the concrete it's

2254
01:52:21,950 --> 01:52:17,550
the Pentagon right it's the center of

2255
01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:21,960
our military that of course the building

2256
01:52:28,550 --> 01:52:25,170
is going to be built to another standard

2257
01:52:31,460 --> 01:52:28,560
and that the hole that was left was the

2258
01:52:33,200 --> 01:52:31,470
hole that was left because the force of

2259
01:52:35,450 --> 01:52:33,210
the plane and the size of the plane and

2260
01:52:38,330 --> 01:52:35,460
the aluminum and everything else was not

2261
01:52:41,330 --> 01:52:38,340
strong enough to generate a larger hole

2262
01:52:44,330 --> 01:52:41,340
so I'm you know I'm left with that

2263
01:52:49,190 --> 01:52:44,340
conundrum what do you think ultimately

2264
01:52:53,110 --> 01:52:49,200
crashed into the Pentagon well we have

2265
01:52:55,490 --> 01:52:53,120
no degree that to speak of we have these

2266
01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:55,500
obstructions that would prevent an

2267
01:52:59,230 --> 01:52:57,570
airplane from flying that low to the

2268
01:53:01,610 --> 01:52:59,240
ground we have the point that you're

2269
01:53:03,860 --> 01:53:01,620
somebody sent to you which was a really

2270
01:53:06,140 --> 01:53:03,870
good point that the at the speed at

2271
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:06,150
which the plane would have had to hit to

2272
01:53:10,790 --> 01:53:07,770
produce that type of a crater would it

2273
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,800
have been so hard that the look on the

2274
01:53:15,170 --> 01:53:12,000
wing would have pulled it off the ground

2275
01:53:17,030 --> 01:53:15,180
so I would say that we're probably

2276
01:53:18,530 --> 01:53:17,040
looking at some type of ballistic

2277
01:53:22,070 --> 01:53:18,540
missiles especially if we consider that

2278
01:53:23,780 --> 01:53:22,080
the testimony of general double beam so

2279
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:23,790
it seems as though we're dealing with

2280
01:53:27,440 --> 01:53:25,290
some type of missile that I would say

2281
01:53:29,540 --> 01:53:27,450
the a missile attack would incorporate

2282
01:53:31,940 --> 01:53:29,550
all of the observations we have into a

2283
01:53:34,910 --> 01:53:31,950
cohesive explanation that's where I'm

2284
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:34,920
putting my money at this point the the

2285
01:53:39,980 --> 01:53:37,650
side of the building this is from the

2286
01:53:42,950 --> 01:53:39,990
very beginning with the Pentagon this is

2287
01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:42,960
the one thing that stood out for me is

2288
01:53:49,490 --> 01:53:47,520
you have the wingspan and you have the

2289
01:53:54,110 --> 01:53:49,500
the hole in the middle but there's

2290
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:54,120
nothing that is on the outside the right

2291
01:53:57,890 --> 01:53:55,530
there's nothing there there's no broken

2292
01:53:59,470 --> 01:53:57,900
windows there's no scratches on the side

2293
01:54:03,440 --> 01:53:59,480
of the bit there's nothing really there

2294
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:03,450
so I said to myself well the wings fell

2295
01:54:08,450 --> 01:54:06,690
off okay all right okay the wings fell

2296
01:54:10,430 --> 01:54:08,460
off they're out there and somewhere but

2297
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:10,440
they they you know that this plane

2298
01:54:13,700 --> 01:54:12,330
smashes into the building these engines

2299
01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:13,710
got to go somewhere you'd think there

2300
01:54:18,229 --> 01:54:16,530
B minor craters or some type of damage

2301
01:54:20,330 --> 01:54:18,239
to the facing to show that these two

2302
01:54:23,060 --> 01:54:20,340
engines smashed in and they would have

2303
01:54:24,860 --> 01:54:23,070
been fairly close in the distance from

2304
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:24,870
the center points of the the initial

2305
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:27,090
impact right so we which we would expect

2306
01:54:30,110 --> 01:54:28,890
to see that stuff there in the building

2307
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:30,120
but if you actually pull up a photo

2308
01:54:33,740 --> 01:54:32,130
which I'm looking at right now there's

2309
01:54:35,570 --> 01:54:33,750
two dark spots but they're not

2310
01:54:37,130 --> 01:54:35,580
equidistant from the center point which

2311
01:54:38,330 --> 01:54:37,140
means that they probably weren't the

2312
01:54:40,130 --> 01:54:38,340
engines there was something else that

2313
01:54:47,270 --> 01:54:40,140
had smashed in there so where did these

2314
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:47,280
engines go yeah there is with with with

2315
01:54:53,930 --> 01:54:50,400
the World Trade Centers and you know

2316
01:54:56,290 --> 01:54:53,940
full tanks and and and you know crashing

2317
01:54:59,090 --> 01:54:56,300
at the top of the building the the

2318
01:55:01,670 --> 01:54:59,100
possibility of a lot of it being burnt

2319
01:55:04,250 --> 01:55:01,680
up and then the building's just collapse

2320
01:55:04,940 --> 01:55:04,260
the planes disintegrated along with

2321
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:04,950
everything else

2322
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:06,690
obviously the building's fell and

2323
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:08,850
everything was pulverized into dust I

2324
01:55:15,020 --> 01:55:11,370
can understand that with the Pentagon we

2325
01:55:17,959 --> 01:55:15,030
had the exact opposite of that nobilion

2326
01:55:21,740 --> 01:55:17,969
collapsed there should have been debris

2327
01:55:23,180 --> 01:55:21,750
everywhere tripping over debris the tail

2328
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:23,190
of the airplane should have been

2329
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:26,250
somewhere you know and and those engines

2330
01:55:33,590 --> 01:55:28,320
that you're talking about and that's

2331
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:33,600
where with the Pentagon I'm very I'm

2332
01:55:40,010 --> 01:55:36,570
very perplexed with that and then we

2333
01:55:43,160 --> 01:55:40,020
have we're gonna take a break in rural

2334
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:43,170
Pennsylvania flight 93 nose dives into

2335
01:55:53,900 --> 01:55:47,690
the ground and nothing is left behind I

2336
01:55:57,010 --> 01:55:53,910
mean nobody nothing is left and there

2337
01:55:59,990 --> 01:55:57,020
wasn't an opportunity afforded to any

2338
01:56:02,660 --> 01:56:00,000
independent investigation or film crews

2339
01:56:06,110 --> 01:56:02,670
or anything else that were allowed to

2340
01:56:09,380 --> 01:56:06,120
the crash site to go and ask questions

2341
01:56:10,010 --> 01:56:09,390
and that is another giant red flag for

2342
01:56:14,390 --> 01:56:10,020
us I think

2343
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:14,400
oh yeah questionably I mean it we can we

2344
01:56:17,900 --> 01:56:15,690
can certainly dive into a little bit

2345
01:56:20,300 --> 01:56:17,910
here but yeah I'm looking at a photo now

2346
01:56:21,709 --> 01:56:20,310
the crash and there's I don't see

2347
01:56:24,709 --> 01:56:21,719
anything I don't see a fuchsia lot

2348
01:56:27,380 --> 01:56:24,719
fuselage no CC I don't see you know

2349
01:56:29,090 --> 01:56:27,390
airplane

2350
01:56:31,220 --> 01:56:29,100
wings I don't see any engines I don't

2351
01:56:32,780 --> 01:56:31,230
see anything it's just a black spot on

2352
01:56:37,220 --> 01:56:32,790
the ground so where did this plane go

2353
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:37,230
yeah the the the evidence that we have

2354
01:56:44,690 --> 01:56:40,770
over the years of plane crashes all

2355
01:56:46,610 --> 01:56:44,700
around this planet we are able to go

2356
01:56:49,310 --> 01:56:46,620
back collect the debris and figure out

2357
01:56:54,170 --> 01:56:49,320
how the plane crashed right that's what

2358
01:56:56,570 --> 01:56:54,180
we do and with flight 93 the exact

2359
01:56:59,300 --> 01:56:56,580
opposite of that came into play here

2360
01:57:01,190 --> 01:56:59,310
that there is nothing left behind

2361
01:57:03,620 --> 01:57:01,200
there's nothing here the plane crashed

2362
01:57:06,710 --> 01:57:03,630
at 500 miles an hour nose dived in

2363
01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:06,720
there's nothing left and that is a

2364
01:57:13,460 --> 01:57:10,650
little bit strange to me it doesn't sit

2365
01:57:15,170 --> 01:57:13,470
right right yeah they have these black

2366
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:15,180
boxes I mean the black boxes are

2367
01:57:19,700 --> 01:57:17,970
designed to withstand massive impact so

2368
01:57:22,700 --> 01:57:19,710
you can have flight recorder data but

2369
01:57:24,980 --> 01:57:22,710
where did that go first I remember there

2370
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:24,990
was no black box we need to take a break

2371
01:57:33,650 --> 01:57:27,930
right here when we come back we need to

2372
01:57:37,970 --> 01:57:33,660
ask the question why why okay big

2373
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:37,980
conspiracy false flags well you know we

2374
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have to ask the question why we're gonna

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do all of that when we come back our

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guests just

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his shams fade to black I'm you know

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welcome back beta-blocker meal shimmy

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Church September 11th 9/11 our guest

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tonight just in to champs

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dedicating this show to Jim Marrs

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and now I'm gonna read something really

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quick to you Justin about this insider

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trading this is from Allen M Pontius men

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from the Journal of business and he says

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a measure of abnormal long put volume

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was also examined and seemed to be

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abnormally high levels in the days

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leading up to the attacks consequently

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the paper concludes that there is

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evidence of unusual option market

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activity in the days leading up to

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September 11th that is consistent with

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investors trading on advanced knowledge

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of the attacks okay the study was

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intended to address the great deal of

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speculation about whether option market

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activity indicated that the terrorists

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or their associates had traded in the

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days leading up to September 11 an

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advanced knowledge of the impending

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attacks and the days leading up to 9/11

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analysis shows a rise in the put to call

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ratio for United Airlines in American

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Airlines the two airlines from which the

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planes were hijacked on 9/11 between

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September 6th and 7th the Chicago Board

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Options Exchange recorded purchases of

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four thousand seven hundred and forty

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four put option contracts on United

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Airlines 396 and and 396 call options on

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September 10th more trading in Chicago

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saw the purchase of four thousand five

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hundred sixteen put options in American

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Airlines the other airline involved in

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the hijackings with a mere four hundred

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seven hundred and forty eight call

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options in American purchased that day

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no other airline companies had unusual

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put to call ratio in the days leading up

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to the attacks the 9/11 Commission

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concluded that these abnormal patterns

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in trading were coincidental now there's

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a lot more information that is out there

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and

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happened there TD Waterhouse brokerage

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firms NFS fidelity investments they

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estimated that the insider or that the

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trading or traders would have realized a

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five million dollar profit now I'm just

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you know when you look at all of this it

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just seems to me that there was

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foreknowledge there was a lot of

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information out there it wasn't just

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with Washington but others came in to

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play here the question is Justin why why

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would they do it is it money

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well I think the answer to that question

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is multiple layered I mean it for

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certain players in the Cabal criminal

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network you could say money is a

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motivating factor so I would say they

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they recruit certain people through

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greed and a lot of people are just happy

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making gobs of money and living off in

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their lives and you know they're not

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necessarily read in or aware of the

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deeper darker aspects but I think to as

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far as I went really deep in China

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answer this question I'm still trying to

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answer this question that but I've

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distilled from my research is this and

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it's a it's basically that the the

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powers that be we're dealing with a a

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dark occult group by all accounts they

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call themselves the order of the Black

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Sun they reach back thousands of meters

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and they use various recruiting arms to

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to carry out their agenda now these

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people believe and you've had other

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people on the show talk about this they

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believe that the universe is basically

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held and that instead of instead of

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serving in heaven they want to reign in

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Hell they want to be the Masters of the

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prison so to speak so one of the ways

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that they do that is they for lack of a

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better term they give the finger to the

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divine there any any way that they can

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use to make the world corrupt horrible

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evil destructive manipulative they want

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to push that and as a basis for that I

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want to I want to talk to you a little

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bit about a group that came out

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they actually started in the 1666 so I

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mean just give me a moment to run

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through that sure I think I'll help

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explain a lot of us

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so back in 1665 there was a man named

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Charlotte she said hezbi who proclaimed

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he was a Jewish rabbi who proclaimed

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himself the Messiah now he appears to be

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an operative a crypto-jew if you will

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working for the order of the Black Sun

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and what his job was was to convert

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massive amounts of Judaism over into a

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basically hedonistic cult and one of the

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tenants of this cult was that they

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believed in Judaism that the Messiah

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would come in times of great sin or

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great virtue and since people can't be

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Saints since we all can't be saint but

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let us be sinners so in other words

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they're there or belief was that if they

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created as much sin and debauchery and

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inequity as possible on the planet Earth

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then eventually the Messiah would come

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and you know there would be a golden age

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so these guys literally believe that

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causing the most pain and hardships as

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humanly possible is the best way to

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realize their agenda and I think that

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helps explain a lot of the machinations

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that we see here I mean why would these

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people plan an event like this why would

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we see all sorts of things that we have

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I mean Tourister cancer being suppressed

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you know horrific pain and tragedy all

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upon the planet I think it's partially

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because this this deranged an insane

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group of dark occultus is trying to

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create as much pain and suffering on the

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planet as possible and that's partially

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to realize their vision of a dark world

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and we could certainly dig more into

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that but I think that's a huge thread

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that explains part of the why question

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is the the other the other part of this

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which is the back side of 9/11 which is

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the invasion of Afghanistan

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one two Iraq came into play terrorists

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and and Saddam Hussein was somehow

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connected

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to bin Laden which a lot of this you

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know turn out to be completely false and

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weapons of mass destruction and and you

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know the dots are all connected here but

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is there also the aspect of which comes

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into play with what you're explaining

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here of course that there are dark

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powers in play and that they wanted this

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false flag created to go in and invade

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these countries and profit off of those

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invasions not only directly with the

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military and and Raytheon and and

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Tomahawk missiles and bombs and bullets

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and everything that the logistics that

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comes into play and the profiting off of

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that type of invasion but certainly the

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reconstructive aspect of it afterwards

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right we'll go and level the countries

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and then we'll go in and use American

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companies to go in and build streets and

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infrastructure and water and power

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plants and and of course tap into the

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oil and we'll capture that too as well

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that all of this was was part of what

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9/11 was about yes precisely you nailed

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it I mean it was multi serious

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multi-pronged agenda and platform you

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know you they wanted to produce a

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platform for basically American

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imperialism we're gonna become the world

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police we're going to go in and save

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these countries from whatever tyrants

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they happen to be operating under we're

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going to give them democracy and

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everything is gonna be great well what

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goes hand in hand with that we have

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massive increases in military spending

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so we got the military imperialism that

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goes there we're usually invading

2675
02:11:05,470 --> 02:11:02,870
countries that have a lot of financial

2676
02:11:07,180 --> 02:11:05,480
resources and assets I mean the rock is

2677
02:11:11,020 --> 02:11:07,190
a ton of oil wells and it's one of the

2678
02:11:12,970 --> 02:11:11,030
most oil-rich places on the planet you

2679
02:11:14,650 --> 02:11:12,980
look at Afghanistan Afghanistan has a

2680
02:11:16,600 --> 02:11:14,660
massive amount of smoke beyond

2681
02:11:18,220 --> 02:11:16,610
production which is obviously important

2682
02:11:21,190 --> 02:11:18,230
because the drug companies need to have

2683
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:21,200
access to opium so yeah I mean just from

2684
02:11:24,550 --> 02:11:22,880
our financial perspective you don't want

2685
02:11:27,220 --> 02:11:24,560
to dive too deep in the occult stuff

2686
02:11:29,920 --> 02:11:27,230
just from a financial perspective there

2687
02:11:31,810 --> 02:11:29,930
was a huge incentive for this event to

2688
02:11:32,580 --> 02:11:31,820
take place this fall Slyke takes place

2689
02:11:35,070 --> 02:11:32,590
so that they could

2690
02:11:37,109 --> 02:11:35,080
you run up a lot of material support and

2691
02:11:39,899 --> 02:11:37,119
a lot of money and I would say you know

2692
02:11:41,250 --> 02:11:39,909
to throw in the you follow Jesus to that

2693
02:11:42,419 --> 02:11:41,260
why would they need all this money in

2694
02:11:44,370 --> 02:11:42,429
the first place I mean think about it

2695
02:11:45,750 --> 02:11:44,380
we're dealing with the Rothschilds we're

2696
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:45,760
dealing with the Rockefellers the people

2697
02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:47,650
who own the Federal Reserve these guys

2698
02:11:53,810 --> 02:11:50,170
are receiving trillions of dollars every

2699
02:11:55,890 --> 02:11:53,820
year from taxes and the fifth note of

2700
02:11:58,379 --> 02:11:55,900
central banking schemes that they have

2701
02:12:00,330 --> 02:11:58,389
so why would they need all this money

2702
02:12:01,890 --> 02:12:00,340
well I think part of the reason they

2703
02:12:03,750 --> 02:12:01,900
needed this money was because they

2704
02:12:05,160 --> 02:12:03,760
needed to fund black operations and

2705
02:12:07,589 --> 02:12:05,170
various programs so this is probably a

2706
02:12:11,330 --> 02:12:07,599
money grab for that type of agenda as

2707
02:12:16,229 --> 02:12:11,340
well the the backroom the dark

2708
02:12:19,669 --> 02:12:16,239
boardrooms where these these corrupt

2709
02:12:23,250 --> 02:12:19,679
Minds sit around and actually discuss

2710
02:12:24,959 --> 02:12:23,260
what we are talking about here it's it's

2711
02:12:28,979 --> 02:12:24,969
one of the most frightening aspects of

2712
02:12:33,419 --> 02:12:28,989
all of this because it does go on I that

2713
02:12:36,750 --> 02:12:33,429
it does go on the the question about bin

2714
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:36,760
Laden's plane which for me was one of

2715
02:12:42,209 --> 02:12:39,010
the big tipping points in the very very

2716
02:12:46,770 --> 02:12:42,219
very beginning for me it was bin Laden's

2717
02:12:51,120 --> 02:12:46,780
plane the family and a planes and the

2718
02:12:54,540 --> 02:12:51,130
the passport now this email just came in

2719
02:12:56,850 --> 02:12:54,550
from Rob and he says how is it that we

2720
02:12:59,550 --> 02:12:56,860
know bin Laden's family was on a private

2721
02:13:02,520 --> 02:12:59,560
plane leaving the country during the no

2722
02:13:06,180 --> 02:13:02,530
fly this would seem easy to hide if

2723
02:13:08,939 --> 02:13:06,190
desired seems to me we only know of this

2724
02:13:13,500 --> 02:13:08,949
because we are supposed to know about it

2725
02:13:16,109 --> 02:13:13,510
and that is exactly the point he brings

2726
02:13:20,189 --> 02:13:16,119
up one of the best I mean it was like

2727
02:13:23,490 --> 02:13:20,199
out of the gate bin Laden and the family

2728
02:13:26,209 --> 02:13:23,500
right there and look bin Laden may have

2729
02:13:28,770 --> 02:13:26,219
planned all of this and yes he may have

2730
02:13:30,780 --> 02:13:28,780
been given all of this in advance and

2731
02:13:34,620 --> 02:13:30,790
yes he had his direct connections to the

2732
02:13:37,500 --> 02:13:34,630
CIA and what was going in going on in

2733
02:13:40,229 --> 02:13:37,510
Afghanistan during the Russian

2734
02:13:42,720 --> 02:13:40,239
occupation we understand all of that bin

2735
02:13:45,540 --> 02:13:42,730
Laden was a player and he was known to

2736
02:13:48,870 --> 02:13:45,550
us from the get-go right and

2737
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:48,880
that's not let's not forget that William

2738
02:13:55,230 --> 02:13:51,010
Cooper bill Cooper brought up all of

2739
02:13:58,020 --> 02:13:55,240
this way before it had ever happened so

2740
02:14:00,600 --> 02:13:58,030
it wasn't like bin Laden was unknown but

2741
02:14:01,980 --> 02:14:00,610
the fact that his family's planes were

2742
02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:01,990
flown out of this country and we were

2743
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:04,810
told about it it would have been an easy

2744
02:14:11,100 --> 02:14:08,050
thing to hide a very easy thing to hide

2745
02:14:15,840 --> 02:14:11,110
but they didn't it just shows a

2746
02:14:17,460 --> 02:14:15,850
conspiracy on all levels yeah that's a

2747
02:14:19,740 --> 02:14:17,470
good question to ask is it something

2748
02:14:22,620 --> 02:14:19,750
that they wanted to drop out there to

2749
02:14:24,900 --> 02:14:22,630
try to as a red herring just to lead

2750
02:14:27,420 --> 02:14:24,910
people astray to say hey well you know

2751
02:14:29,310 --> 02:14:27,430
been bustin Lana's family was secretive

2752
02:14:31,620 --> 02:14:29,320
the way out of the country does that

2753
02:14:33,300 --> 02:14:31,630
suggest that he was complicit does that

2754
02:14:35,100 --> 02:14:33,310
suggest that there was players and

2755
02:14:37,320 --> 02:14:35,110
actors in the US government that were

2756
02:14:39,510 --> 02:14:37,330
complicit in this and if that's the case

2757
02:14:41,820 --> 02:14:39,520
if they're trying to leak that out then

2758
02:14:43,860 --> 02:14:41,830
why would they do that well it suggests

2759
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:43,870
that if it is a red herring that there

2760
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:45,730
is some type of deeper agenda that

2761
02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:47,530
they're trying to mask by creating a

2762
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:49,810
layers of obfuscation you know that's

2763
02:14:54,270 --> 02:14:52,030
what these guys like to do is usually

2764
02:14:55,530 --> 02:14:54,280
the lies is not just one line then you

2765
02:14:57,900 --> 02:14:55,540
peel back that layer and all of a sudden

2766
02:14:59,910 --> 02:14:57,910
you see the truth usually it's deception

2767
02:15:01,680 --> 02:14:59,920
over deception over the deception and I

2768
02:15:04,410 --> 02:15:01,690
would say that's the case because within

2769
02:15:06,180 --> 02:15:04,420
these schemes you know we tend to think

2770
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:06,190
that the the Cabal or the powers-that-be

2771
02:15:09,990 --> 02:15:08,110
or like this perfectly coordinated

2772
02:15:11,880 --> 02:15:10,000
system in there everybody's on the same

2773
02:15:13,290 --> 02:15:11,890
page and everybody knows what's up I

2774
02:15:14,670 --> 02:15:13,300
don't think that's the case at all I

2775
02:15:18,150 --> 02:15:14,680
think it's actually the case is you have

2776
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:18,160
multiple groups all vying for power and

2777
02:15:23,430 --> 02:15:21,280
a certain centralized group uses various

2778
02:15:25,410 --> 02:15:23,440
methods of manipulation to coerce others

2779
02:15:27,810 --> 02:15:25,420
so what this could be is they maybe they

2780
02:15:29,250 --> 02:15:27,820
bribed a bin Laden maybe they had some

2781
02:15:31,680 --> 02:15:29,260
deal between bin Laden in the bushes

2782
02:15:33,450 --> 02:15:31,690
they secret him away and but he was a 1

2783
02:15:36,540 --> 02:15:33,460
layer of the onion and there was deeper

2784
02:15:38,670 --> 02:15:36,550
layers at work here about this this

2785
02:15:41,670 --> 02:15:38,680
email just came in I need information

2786
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:41,680
from everybody in this audience on this

2787
02:15:47,340 --> 02:15:44,410
including you Justin this from Eric and

2788
02:15:50,190 --> 02:15:47,350
he says anybody else sees something on

2789
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:50,200
CNN that awful day that ran across the

2790
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:52,210
news ticker at the bottom of the TV it

2791
02:15:56,480 --> 02:15:53,890
says something about and I'm quoting

2792
02:15:59,210 --> 02:15:56,490
here the public shouldn't panic

2793
02:16:01,280 --> 02:15:59,220
quote that if there were serious attacks

2794
02:16:03,380 --> 02:16:01,290
against the government there was a

2795
02:16:05,120 --> 02:16:03,390
shadow government ready to step in and

2796
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:05,130
take over in case of any federal

2797
02:16:10,820 --> 02:16:08,850
national emergency do you remember

2798
02:16:12,710 --> 02:16:10,830
anything like that Justin and I'm

2799
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:12,720
throwing this out to the audience as

2800
02:16:17,720 --> 02:16:15,840
well I don't recall seeing something

2801
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:17,730
like that but it sounds quite

2802
02:16:22,970 --> 02:16:20,970
interesting for sure I I do want to take

2803
02:16:24,980 --> 02:16:22,980
the chance to open up the phone lines

2804
02:16:27,620 --> 02:16:24,990
they have been going off I've been

2805
02:16:30,050 --> 02:16:27,630
ignoring them but I'm only going to take

2806
02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:30,060
calls on three to three to seven five

2807
02:16:37,250 --> 02:16:33,210
nine six nine five or eight one eight

2808
02:16:38,960 --> 02:16:37,260
nine two one six nine to nine again

2809
02:16:41,480 --> 02:16:38,970
three to three to seven five nine six

2810
02:16:45,110 --> 02:16:41,490
nine five or eight one eight nine two

2811
02:16:46,460 --> 02:16:45,120
one six nine to nine I needed to get

2812
02:16:50,630 --> 02:16:46,470
that out of the way the phones are going

2813
02:16:53,480 --> 02:16:50,640
crazy but I need everything to go over

2814
02:16:58,640 --> 02:16:53,490
to those phone lines and then I'll start

2815
02:17:01,420 --> 02:16:58,650
to pay attention Justin today I do want

2816
02:17:06,770 --> 02:17:01,430
to take this opportunity to talk about

2817
02:17:11,060 --> 02:17:06,780
this is 17 years ago and we have a lot

2818
02:17:15,170 --> 02:17:11,070
of who was seated in government and the

2819
02:17:21,050 --> 02:17:15,180
military still in place today today we

2820
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:21,060
have q and on what is there a connection

2821
02:17:27,320 --> 02:17:23,730
is there a connection with Q and ons

2822
02:17:31,730 --> 02:17:27,330
information today and could q and on

2823
02:17:36,050 --> 02:17:31,740
have been part of what was going down in

2824
02:17:39,110 --> 02:17:36,060
2001 that's a really good question I I

2825
02:17:41,320 --> 02:17:39,120
think that another correlation there yet

2826
02:17:46,790 --> 02:17:41,330
like you said it's a 17 year anniversary

2827
02:17:52,370 --> 02:17:46,800
the 17th letter the excute what that

2828
02:17:54,380 --> 02:17:52,380
means I'm not quite sure okay you're

2829
02:17:57,190 --> 02:17:54,390
breaking up everything that you just

2830
02:18:00,470 --> 02:17:57,200
said needs to be repeated you said this

2831
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:00,480
yeah that's okay let's pick it up from

2832
02:18:05,500 --> 02:18:02,490
there you said this is the 17th

2833
02:18:08,270 --> 02:18:05,510
anniversary of 2001

2834
02:18:09,810 --> 02:18:08,280
yeah the 17th anniversary of the

2835
02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:09,820
September 11th attacks

2836
02:18:17,380 --> 02:18:14,690
so that's 17 the number 17 corresponds

2837
02:18:20,020 --> 02:18:17,390
to the letter Q in the alphabet we're in

2838
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:20,030
German JA monetary perspective so

2839
02:18:24,640 --> 02:18:22,610
there's that connection what that means

2840
02:18:27,070 --> 02:18:24,650
necessarily I'm not quite sure but it I

2841
02:18:29,530 --> 02:18:27,080
find it interesting that like we were

2842
02:18:31,480 --> 02:18:29,540
saying earlier the original son Bert

2843
02:18:35,740 --> 02:18:31,490
September 11th attack occurred on

2844
02:18:39,400 --> 02:18:35,750
Tuesday Tuesday the God of War so it was

2845
02:18:41,110 --> 02:18:39,410
the Cabal essentially attacking some

2846
02:18:43,300 --> 02:18:41,120
aspect of our society we'll just leave

2847
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:43,310
it at that so here we are seventeen

2848
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:47,210
years later now it's the L also falling

2849
02:18:52,090 --> 02:18:50,090
on a Tuesday good today's Tuesday and we

2850
02:18:56,920 --> 02:18:52,100
have this cute thing that came out last

2851
02:18:58,990 --> 02:18:56,930
year so it seems to imply that perhaps

2852
02:19:00,100 --> 02:18:59,000
and this is a big question and that

2853
02:19:01,780 --> 02:19:00,110
saying this is what I believe but I'm

2854
02:19:04,570 --> 02:19:01,790
just throwing it out there for some some

2855
02:19:07,030 --> 02:19:04,580
of us to consider what if the whole

2856
02:19:08,910 --> 02:19:07,040
alliance that has been trying to free

2857
02:19:13,270 --> 02:19:08,920
the planet has been around too long time

2858
02:19:15,820 --> 02:19:13,280
some people say that it's this plan has

2859
02:19:19,990 --> 02:19:15,830
been being hashed for you know 20 30 40

2860
02:19:21,790 --> 02:19:20,000
50 years what if the 9/11 events was

2861
02:19:23,890 --> 02:19:21,800
allowed to happen from the Alliance

2862
02:19:26,380 --> 02:19:23,900
perspectives so that it would eventually

2863
02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:26,390
culminate in a massive freedom event I

2864
02:19:29,350 --> 02:19:28,160
mean that's a that's a big pill to

2865
02:19:33,160 --> 02:19:29,360
swallow but I think it's a definitive

2866
02:19:34,270 --> 02:19:33,170
possibility and if if Q I mean that's

2867
02:19:37,570 --> 02:19:34,280
not the whole conversation right there

2868
02:19:39,250 --> 02:19:37,580
but if Q is really representative of an

2869
02:19:43,300 --> 02:19:39,260
alliance faction within the government

2870
02:19:46,060 --> 02:19:43,310
then what could be planned for the the

2871
02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:46,070
days following today that's my question

2872
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:48,050
that's what I'm not sure it's happening

2873
02:19:51,430 --> 02:19:49,610
is there really an alliance faction

2874
02:19:53,381 --> 02:19:51,440
that's out there to free us it certainly

2875
02:19:54,730 --> 02:19:53,391
seems like it's a passive based on where

2876
02:19:58,511 --> 02:19:54,740
you look but there's a lot of

2877
02:20:01,480 --> 02:19:58,521
uncertainty there when we have the the

2878
02:20:04,511 --> 02:20:01,490
big question here how how could our

2879
02:20:07,890 --> 02:20:04,521
government plan something like this you

2880
02:20:12,730 --> 02:20:07,900
know 3,000 people died more died of

2881
02:20:15,250 --> 02:20:12,740
cancer and lingering effects of what

2882
02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:15,260
happened in Manhattan that day so

2883
02:20:21,900 --> 02:20:20,210
there's that part of it and it seems too

2884
02:20:26,010 --> 02:20:21,910
much - of

2885
02:20:30,349 --> 02:20:26,020
but I have to direct everybody back very

2886
02:20:33,469 --> 02:20:30,359
simply to Operation Northwoods and

2887
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:33,479
Operation Northwoods which goes back to

2888
02:20:41,760 --> 02:20:38,800
1962 was a proposal that called for the

2889
02:20:44,670 --> 02:20:41,770
CIA the Central Intelligence Agency and

2890
02:20:47,190 --> 02:20:44,680
other government operatives to commit

2891
02:20:49,349 --> 02:20:47,200
acts of terrorism against American

2892
02:20:53,160 --> 02:20:49,359
civilians and military targets and

2893
02:20:57,060 --> 02:20:53,170
blaming it on the Cuban government and

2894
02:21:02,190 --> 02:20:57,070
the plans detailed very specifically

2895
02:21:05,849 --> 02:21:02,200
about hijacking planes blowing up a u.s.

2896
02:21:10,679 --> 02:21:05,859
ship and orchestrating violent terrorism

2897
02:21:14,820 --> 02:21:10,689
in u.s. cities and use this as an excuse

2898
02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:14,830
to turn around and attack Fidel Castro

2899
02:21:25,400 --> 02:21:21,850
and Cuba now this was used to create

2900
02:21:30,440 --> 02:21:25,410
public support for that war against Cuba

2901
02:21:33,360 --> 02:21:30,450
blaming it on them hijacking a plane or

2902
02:21:37,139 --> 02:21:33,370
and using that plane shooting the plane

2903
02:21:40,530 --> 02:21:37,149
down and saying that Cuba shot the plane

2904
02:21:43,800 --> 02:21:40,540
down right and it's like wait a minute

2905
02:21:47,790 --> 02:21:43,810
here now this plan was drafted by the

2906
02:21:50,910 --> 02:21:47,800
Joint Chiefs signed by chairman Lyman

2907
02:21:55,099 --> 02:21:50,920
and Leominster and sent to the Secretary

2908
02:21:58,110 --> 02:21:55,109
of Defense and it was sat down proposed

2909
02:22:01,860 --> 02:21:58,120
to not only the Joint Chiefs but

2910
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:01,870
President John F Kennedy now it was

2911
02:22:13,160 --> 02:22:07,050
rejected allegedly by Kennedy but the

2912
02:22:16,469 --> 02:22:13,170
the very tops the Joint Chiefs the CIA

2913
02:22:21,810 --> 02:22:16,479
drafted this plan and thought it was a

2914
02:22:25,530 --> 02:22:21,820
great idea had Kennedy said yes it would

2915
02:22:27,900 --> 02:22:25,540
have happened right exactly

2916
02:22:30,150 --> 02:22:27,910
so yeah here we have a glaring example

2917
02:22:32,760 --> 02:22:30,160
right in the public eye where the

2918
02:22:34,650 --> 02:22:32,770
government is planning false flag Silas

2919
02:22:38,970 --> 02:22:34,660
has to use against another

2920
02:22:40,230 --> 02:22:38,980
nation but still the they're capable of

2921
02:22:41,761 --> 02:22:40,240
doing us they're capable of thinking

2922
02:22:44,400 --> 02:22:41,771
about these things they're capable of

2923
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:44,410
even implementing these plans and I mean

2924
02:22:48,960 --> 02:22:46,240
the history of false flag it goes back

2925
02:22:51,690 --> 02:22:48,970
here so that is a really good example of

2926
02:22:53,131 --> 02:22:51,700
what I would say is a proof of character

2927
02:22:54,690 --> 02:22:53,141
when it comes to the government the

2928
02:22:56,670 --> 02:22:54,700
shadow government in particular the deep

2929
02:22:58,770 --> 02:22:56,680
state and what lengths they're willing

2930
02:23:00,810 --> 02:22:58,780
to go through in order to create

2931
02:23:02,220 --> 02:23:00,820
catalyzing events and then the other the

2932
02:23:03,420 --> 02:23:02,230
other good point that we didn't mention

2933
02:23:06,750 --> 02:23:03,430
that I think we should throw out there

2934
02:23:08,551 --> 02:23:06,760
now is the the Citigroup memo I believe

2935
02:23:11,220 --> 02:23:08,561
the Citigroup meant when that came out

2936
02:23:13,290 --> 02:23:11,230
saying that they were going to have some

2937
02:23:14,940 --> 02:23:13,300
type of catalyzing event that allowed to

2938
02:23:16,890 --> 02:23:14,950
gain control over some aspects of the

2939
02:23:20,040 --> 02:23:16,900
market so that's another glaring

2940
02:23:22,290 --> 02:23:20,050
indication that these these things do

2941
02:23:23,970 --> 02:23:22,300
happen Manette mass manipulation is

2942
02:23:26,881 --> 02:23:23,980
nothing new and has been going on for a

2943
02:23:32,040 --> 02:23:26,891
very long time and the other part of

2944
02:23:33,750 --> 02:23:32,050
this is that this this proposal was

2945
02:23:35,520 --> 02:23:33,760
presented in a document called the

2946
02:23:38,520 --> 02:23:35,530
justification for US military

2947
02:23:40,530 --> 02:23:38,530
intervention in Cuba you can go and read

2948
02:23:45,030 --> 02:23:40,540
that yourself and it was released back

2949
02:23:49,350 --> 02:23:45,040
in 1997 the document is real but the

2950
02:23:52,230 --> 02:23:49,360
other part for me is how long did

2951
02:23:55,650 --> 02:23:52,240
Operation Northwoods and the idea behind

2952
02:23:58,320 --> 02:23:55,660
it the logistics behind it just sit

2953
02:24:00,990 --> 02:23:58,330
around and get discussed many times and

2954
02:24:07,280 --> 02:24:01,000
proposed and maybe even implemented

2955
02:24:10,230 --> 02:24:07,290
that's the thing right if the the whole

2956
02:24:14,551 --> 02:24:10,240
outline of what happened on September

2957
02:24:18,020 --> 02:24:14,561
11th is is right here in in this

2958
02:24:21,060 --> 02:24:18,030
proposal by the CIA in the Joint Chiefs

2959
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:21,070
it's right there the groundwork of it

2960
02:24:28,020 --> 02:24:24,970
and to get the swell of American emotion

2961
02:24:30,780 --> 02:24:28,030
and the population behind anything else

2962
02:24:34,310 --> 02:24:30,790
that they may do including me I was

2963
02:24:38,820 --> 02:24:34,320
outraged right the fears that I thought

2964
02:24:42,240 --> 02:24:38,830
about 9/11 that day in the days after

2965
02:24:44,030 --> 02:24:42,250
that I was ready to do anything and so

2966
02:24:47,060 --> 02:24:44,040
was the rest of the country and

2967
02:24:51,381 --> 02:24:47,070
operational forwards in its core was

2968
02:24:52,910 --> 02:24:51,391
definitely put into play exactly I mean

2969
02:24:55,011 --> 02:24:52,920
you're basically reading out of the

2970
02:24:56,870 --> 02:24:55,021
PlayBook of the Cabal you know that

2971
02:25:00,200 --> 02:24:56,880
these manipulations these things that

2972
02:25:02,841 --> 02:25:00,210
happen are pard nothing new and you know

2973
02:25:04,070 --> 02:25:02,851
to speak to that a little bit one thing

2974
02:25:05,690 --> 02:25:04,080
that I always like to try to highlight

2975
02:25:07,910 --> 02:25:05,700
when we're talking about false flag

2976
02:25:11,091 --> 02:25:07,920
attacks is you got to remember who the

2977
02:25:13,011 --> 02:25:11,101
target is the target of the false flag

2978
02:25:15,770 --> 02:25:13,021
is not the people at the World Trade

2979
02:25:18,591 --> 02:25:15,780
Center it's not the government it's not

2980
02:25:21,140 --> 02:25:18,601
the airlines it's not the terrorists the

2981
02:25:23,751 --> 02:25:21,150
target of the the false flag is you

2982
02:25:26,570 --> 02:25:23,761
it's your consciousness into your mind

2983
02:25:28,310 --> 02:25:26,580
it's your sense of reality so unlike

2984
02:25:30,560 --> 02:25:28,320
what we normally think of when we see

2985
02:25:33,020 --> 02:25:30,570
these events you know you got to think a

2986
02:25:35,930 --> 02:25:33,030
good analogy is like being in a in a

2987
02:25:39,381 --> 02:25:35,940
theory the illusionist is doing tricks

2988
02:25:41,511 --> 02:25:39,391
to his assistant but the effect the meat

2989
02:25:44,541 --> 02:25:41,521
and potatoes of what they're doing is in

2990
02:25:46,131 --> 02:25:44,551
the audience's mind so what is false

2991
02:25:47,990 --> 02:25:46,141
flag events happened because there's

2992
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:48,000
psychological warfare they're designed

2993
02:25:52,730 --> 02:25:50,090
to distort your perception of reality

2994
02:25:55,580 --> 02:25:52,740
create some type of anxiety and then

2995
02:25:58,341 --> 02:25:55,590
provide some type of solution some pills

2996
02:26:01,011 --> 02:25:58,351
something that you're going to yearn for

2997
02:26:02,660 --> 02:26:01,021
and want to have happen and that's why

2998
02:26:03,910 --> 02:26:02,670
these guys are so good at doing what

2999
02:26:05,390 --> 02:26:03,920
they're doing because they're ancient

3000
02:26:06,950 --> 02:26:05,400
psychologists they know how to

3001
02:26:08,511 --> 02:26:06,960
manipulate human consciousness they've

3002
02:26:10,791 --> 02:26:08,521
been doing it for thousands of years

3003
02:26:12,230 --> 02:26:10,801
and they've gotten very good at doing it

3004
02:26:15,801 --> 02:26:12,240
through mass media and various other

3005
02:26:17,541 --> 02:26:15,811
forts what's new over at stillness in

3006
02:26:19,011 --> 02:26:17,551
the storm before I let you go and say

3007
02:26:22,100 --> 02:26:19,021
goodnight what do you guys talking about

3008
02:26:25,520 --> 02:26:22,110
over there oh boy

3009
02:26:27,320 --> 02:26:25,530
well we're doing a lot of cool stuff we

3010
02:26:28,791 --> 02:26:27,330
see I actually pulled up a one a couple

3011
02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:28,801
stories that I wanted to just mention

3012
02:26:33,980 --> 02:26:31,290
with you that they're really interesting

3013
02:26:36,650 --> 02:26:33,990
there were two sets of mysterious booms

3014
02:26:38,360 --> 02:26:36,660
that happened earlier this summer one

3015
02:26:40,970 --> 02:26:38,370
was on July 3rd and the other was on

3016
02:26:45,110 --> 02:26:40,980
July 23rd this one that happened on July

3017
02:26:47,631 --> 02:26:45,120
3rd that was in Tennessee and it was a

3018
02:26:48,200 --> 02:26:47,641
massive explosion or some type of loud

3019
02:26:50,751 --> 02:26:48,210
boom

3020
02:26:52,551 --> 02:26:50,761
the USGS claimed that it was a nearby

3021
02:26:55,001 --> 02:26:52,561
quarry blast but then the quarry in

3022
02:26:57,140 --> 02:26:55,011
question the the person who was

3023
02:26:58,070 --> 02:26:57,150
contacted there said there was no quarry

3024
02:27:00,011 --> 02:26:58,080
and they don't know the fact they're

3025
02:27:01,099 --> 02:27:00,021
talking about it and this was a 2.1

3026
02:27:03,019 --> 02:27:01,109
rictus

3027
02:27:05,119 --> 02:27:03,029
Dail earthquake so this isn't a small

3028
02:27:08,119 --> 02:27:05,129
event then we had another one very

3029
02:27:09,649 --> 02:27:08,129
similar to it on the 23rd near

3030
02:27:11,899 --> 02:27:09,659
Charleston South Carolina and what I

3031
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:11,909
thought was interesting about this was

3032
02:27:15,710 --> 02:27:13,770
that we hear about all the suppose an

3033
02:27:20,059 --> 02:27:15,720
alliance activity taking out bases

3034
02:27:22,399 --> 02:27:20,069
taking out the Cabal and it seems like

3035
02:27:24,290 --> 02:27:22,409
there could be some type of deep

3036
02:27:26,090 --> 02:27:24,300
underground military base attacks

3037
02:27:28,189 --> 02:27:26,100
happening or something that affected a

3038
02:27:31,519 --> 02:27:28,199
number of booms that has been going on

3039
02:27:33,109 --> 02:27:31,529
over the past year has just been really

3040
02:27:36,229 --> 02:27:33,119
interesting so that's something we've

3041
02:27:39,199 --> 02:27:36,239
been following the I'm going through

3042
02:27:40,340 --> 02:27:39,209
your headlines over here and we got to

3043
02:27:44,420 --> 02:27:40,350
get you back on the show

3044
02:27:46,609 --> 02:27:44,430
your headline donald trump implies 9/11

3045
02:27:49,429 --> 02:27:46,619
was a controlled demolition

3046
02:27:52,369 --> 02:27:49,439
you've got advanced technology reports

3047
02:27:59,479 --> 02:27:52,379
leaked by corey good confirmed by

3048
02:28:03,349 --> 02:27:59,489
leading scientists and oh this was did

3049
02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:03,359
you write this one or was this was this

3050
02:28:18,710 --> 02:28:15,319
okay and whistleblower exposes ongoing

3051
02:28:21,409 --> 02:28:18,720
geoengineering on this side and you've

3052
02:28:23,510 --> 02:28:21,419
got of course hurricane florence two in

3053
02:28:26,710 --> 02:28:23,520
testified in ear to a category 5

3054
02:28:31,279 --> 02:28:26,720
strength and our 12 nuclear power

3055
02:28:33,229 --> 02:28:31,289
reactors are in the carolinas I find

3056
02:28:35,719 --> 02:28:33,239
that really interesting too as well and

3057
02:28:37,790 --> 02:28:35,729
you have smorc you and on stuff it's all

3058
02:28:39,889 --> 02:28:37,800
right there at stillness in the storm

3059
02:28:40,340 --> 02:28:39,899
it's a one of the great web sites out

3060
02:28:42,590 --> 02:28:40,350
there

3061
02:28:44,300 --> 02:28:42,600
Justin thank you for not only stillness

3062
02:28:47,449 --> 02:28:44,310
in the storm but for doing everything

3063
02:28:50,210 --> 02:28:47,459
that you do thank you so much my

3064
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:50,220
pleasure Jimmy and real quick if anybody

3065
02:28:53,569 --> 02:28:51,930
is in California in the in Venice area

3066
02:28:55,550 --> 02:28:53,579
I'll be at the portal to ascension

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conference from the 4th to the 7th of

3068
02:28:57,800 --> 02:28:56,399
October

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they'll have livestream tickets

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order to ascension calm and of course

3072
02:29:05,359 --> 02:29:01,859
you can find me at stillness and a

3073
02:29:08,960 --> 02:29:05,369
strong calm just in dish shams thank you

3074
02:29:11,420 --> 02:29:08,970
so much my friend take care of Jimmy

3075
02:29:13,650 --> 02:29:11,430
have a good night yeah you too Justin to

3076
02:29:15,870 --> 02:29:13,660
shams and it is stillness in the

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storm dot-com the links are always over

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at Jimmy Church radio immune click on it

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right there

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yes portal to ascension and that is

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October October 5th through the 7th

3082
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right here in Southern California and

3083
02:29:33,930 --> 02:29:31,601
the links are over at stillness in the

3084
02:29:37,051 --> 02:29:33,940
storm comm I'm going to take a quick

3085
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break and open up all of the phone lines

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when I come back I'll take your phone

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calls stay with me

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all right welcome back fade to black I

3173
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want to thank just into champs coming in

3174
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tonight discussing all aspects of 911

3175
02:34:32,710 --> 02:34:29,510
September 11 2001 show dedicated to Jim

3176
02:34:39,280 --> 02:34:32,720
Marrs and I'm gonna go to the phones

3177
02:34:41,019 --> 02:34:39,290
here let's go to area code 5 7 1 Europe

3178
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first year aren't they to block who's

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calling

3180
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hey Jimmy this is David in Virginia hi

3181
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David in Virginia how are you I'm just

3182
02:34:53,710 --> 02:34:50,840
fine my speaker friends encouraged me to

3183
02:34:56,349 --> 02:34:53,720
call in I've gotta tell you where I was

3184
02:34:58,300 --> 02:34:56,359
on 9-1-1 but first I want to tell you

3185
02:35:01,870 --> 02:34:58,310
we're filling sandbags ready for

3186
02:35:04,960 --> 02:35:01,880
Florence here in Virginia but yeah yeah

3187
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yeah that's a hope I you're safe you

3188
02:35:10,540 --> 02:35:07,880
know that goes without saying I think I

3189
02:35:12,400 --> 02:35:10,550
will be I'm near Washington DC and it's

3190
02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:12,410
just gonna be a lot of rain and flooding

3191
02:35:19,620 --> 02:35:16,640
for us but I was in the Pentagon on 9/11

3192
02:35:23,050 --> 02:35:19,630
I worked there was in center court and

3193
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:23,060
you know I like to say I saw the plane

3194
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:27,290
hit I've seen video of it hit but I

3195
02:35:33,580 --> 02:35:30,410
don't know if it's real video I do know

3196
02:35:35,590 --> 02:35:33,590
the day after they confiscated all the

3197
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video from the gas station that's

3198
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crossed the street that has a camera all

3199
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the security cam video that was in all

3200
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the Pentagon security booths all comped

3201
02:35:49,059 --> 02:35:47,029
the day after but I saw some of that

3202
02:35:53,170 --> 02:35:49,069
video whether it's real or not I don't

3203
02:35:55,059 --> 02:35:53,180
know so when I was in wait a minute so

3204
02:35:57,910 --> 02:35:55,069
you were in center court you were in the

3205
02:36:01,360 --> 02:35:57,920
center of the Pentagon in the where they

3206
02:36:03,729 --> 02:36:01,370
have a you can yeah the little hamburger

3207
02:36:06,429 --> 02:36:03,739
stand yeah yeah that's where I was and

3208
02:36:09,040 --> 02:36:06,439
I'm a smoker so I was out there smoking

3209
02:36:10,860 --> 02:36:09,050
a cigarette what was your job what did

3210
02:36:13,630 --> 02:36:10,870
you do there

3211
02:36:17,019 --> 02:36:13,640
well I still work for the Department of

3212
02:36:20,260 --> 02:36:17,029
Defense but back then I was a computer

3213
02:36:23,099 --> 02:36:20,270
guy working for the DoD Comptroller the

3214
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:23,109
people who do the DoD budgets right I

3215
02:36:27,960 --> 02:36:25,760
don't do that now I work for the Air

3216
02:36:30,530 --> 02:36:27,970
Force now but still a

3217
02:36:34,011 --> 02:36:30,540
IT person

3218
02:36:37,850 --> 02:36:34,021
did you hear what did you see so there

3219
02:36:39,830 --> 02:36:37,860
we were in my office in the basement of

3220
02:36:44,330 --> 02:36:39,840
the Pentagon and you know we knew about

3221
02:36:46,580 --> 02:36:44,340
the first plane hitting the towers and I

3222
02:36:47,990 --> 02:36:46,590
thought oh what's that another I don't

3223
02:36:49,940 --> 02:36:48,000
know if you remember but like a week

3224
02:36:52,550 --> 02:36:49,950
before there was this story about this

3225
02:36:55,460 --> 02:36:52,560
private pilot guy who fell asleep and

3226
02:36:58,880 --> 02:36:55,470
his plane sailing westward across

3227
02:37:01,820 --> 02:36:58,890
America and you know nobody's flying it

3228
02:37:03,590 --> 02:37:01,830
and I don't remember what happened to

3229
02:37:06,440 --> 02:37:03,600
that story it's like the pilot was

3230
02:37:09,080 --> 02:37:06,450
unconscious or something but when when

3231
02:37:11,900 --> 02:37:09,090
the plane hit the towers I thought what

3232
02:37:15,200 --> 02:37:11,910
did that happen again and we're talking

3233
02:37:17,960 --> 02:37:15,210
about it and then the second one hit I'm

3234
02:37:21,261 --> 02:37:17,970
like no way you know what's going on

3235
02:37:23,780 --> 02:37:21,271
here right and and that's when I decided

3236
02:37:26,450 --> 02:37:23,790
I'm gonna go out to center court because

3237
02:37:28,250 --> 02:37:26,460
out in the center court like I said I

3238
02:37:31,430 --> 02:37:28,260
was out to smoke in a cigarette you get

3239
02:37:33,830 --> 02:37:31,440
to talk there's lots of different people

3240
02:37:36,290 --> 02:37:33,840
smoking high-level people different

3241
02:37:41,180 --> 02:37:36,300
branches of the military and you know

3242
02:37:43,220 --> 02:37:41,190
information kind of gets passed in

3243
02:37:45,980 --> 02:37:43,230
center court because you're with all the

3244
02:37:53,270 --> 02:37:45,990
so I'm out then we're talking about it

3245
02:37:55,820 --> 02:37:53,280
and it's about 9:30 a.m. and planes

3246
02:37:59,270 --> 02:37:55,830
would fly over the Pentagon just over

3247
02:38:01,520 --> 02:37:59,280
the eastern side all the time landing at

3248
02:38:04,850 --> 02:38:01,530
National Airport you'd always see that

3249
02:38:08,600 --> 02:38:04,860
mm-hmm but this plane I spotted was like

3250
02:38:12,530 --> 02:38:08,610
westerly way up high and I actually made

3251
02:38:14,330 --> 02:38:12,540
a joke because it was circling you know

3252
02:38:16,730 --> 02:38:14,340
and I'm like that's not landing and I

3253
02:38:19,011 --> 02:38:16,740
made a joke oh there's another one

3254
02:38:21,440 --> 02:38:19,021
inbound to the Pentagon at that time it

3255
02:38:24,860 --> 02:38:21,450
was a joke that it was you know probably

3256
02:38:27,650 --> 02:38:24,870
like it was way up way out to the west

3257
02:38:29,660 --> 02:38:27,660
and then all of a sudden it started

3258
02:38:32,180 --> 02:38:29,670
heading towards us and I'm looking at

3259
02:38:35,630 --> 02:38:32,190
this thing and I'm like oh [\h__\h] there is

3260
02:38:38,180 --> 02:38:35,640
a plane coming at the Pentagon and from

3261
02:38:40,190 --> 02:38:38,190
center court if I'm looking up you got

3262
02:38:42,710 --> 02:38:40,200
to know that my line of sight you know

3263
02:38:44,450 --> 02:38:42,720
what I mean I'm looking at the roof of

3264
02:38:47,269 --> 02:38:44,460
the inner ring

3265
02:38:49,429 --> 02:38:47,279
at some point that airplane went below

3266
02:38:53,179 --> 02:38:49,439
that roof lines I couldn't see it

3267
02:38:56,660 --> 02:38:53,189
anymore but it was circling circling and

3268
02:38:59,090 --> 02:38:56,670
then I lost my line of sight as it went

3269
02:39:01,370 --> 02:38:59,100
below the you know the horizon line of

3270
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:01,380
this building because I'm in this

3271
02:39:09,620 --> 02:39:05,310
looking up and then like two seconds

3272
02:39:11,870 --> 02:39:09,630
after that the loudest noise and nuclear

3273
02:39:16,880 --> 02:39:11,880
mushroom bomb I've ever seen in my life

3274
02:39:21,830 --> 02:39:16,890
just the entire this black cloud web

3275
02:39:24,290 --> 02:39:21,840
mouth with rolling red fire in it it was

3276
02:39:27,139 --> 02:39:24,300
the meanest looking in the loudest noise

3277
02:39:30,500 --> 02:39:27,149
I've ever heard in my life and then I

3278
02:39:33,559 --> 02:39:30,510
heard zing just past my ears

3279
02:39:36,200 --> 02:39:33,569
it was the tiles and the glass of the

3280
02:39:41,689 --> 02:39:36,210
inner ring got blasted out and came

3281
02:39:44,150 --> 02:39:41,699
flying by us and my first thought is the

3282
02:39:46,910 --> 02:39:44,160
debris from that black mushroom cloud is

3283
02:39:49,010 --> 02:39:46,920
going to come raining down on us hunt so

3284
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:49,020
everybody tried to run for these little

3285
02:39:55,969 --> 02:39:53,250
overhangs and I can remember I ran in

3286
02:39:59,120 --> 02:39:55,979
the opposite direction as everybody

3287
02:40:01,040 --> 02:39:59,130
around me to get under this overhang and

3288
02:40:02,900 --> 02:40:01,050
you got to give it to the military

3289
02:40:06,710 --> 02:40:02,910
because if I'm running behind this

3290
02:40:08,870 --> 02:40:06,720
military I'm a contractor this military

3291
02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:08,880
guy we all ran and then he is

3292
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:11,850
I guess his military training kicked in

3293
02:40:17,269 --> 02:40:14,160
because then he stopped he turned around

3294
02:40:19,519 --> 02:40:17,279
and ran it went straight into the fire

3295
02:40:21,620 --> 02:40:19,529
you know he turned I guess he at first

3296
02:40:24,050 --> 02:40:21,630
thought save myself and then he thought

3297
02:40:27,260 --> 02:40:24,060
I'm good you know I'm going to see you

3298
02:40:32,179 --> 02:40:27,270
know he went towards the decide that got

3299
02:40:34,280 --> 02:40:32,189
hit but as soon as they I saw the plane

3300
02:40:36,290 --> 02:40:34,290
hit because I'm on the inner ring and it

3301
02:40:40,670 --> 02:40:36,300
obviously hit on the outer ring but I

3302
02:40:45,620 --> 02:40:40,680
saw a plane in an unusual part of the

3303
02:40:47,809 --> 02:40:45,630
sky circling and then two seconds after

3304
02:40:50,360 --> 02:40:47,819
it went below the horizon a giant

3305
02:40:53,719 --> 02:40:50,370
mushroom cloud I don't know maybe that

3306
02:40:55,099 --> 02:40:53,729
was a hologram I saw no okay well David

3307
02:40:56,841 --> 02:40:55,109
let me let me ask you a couple of

3308
02:41:00,081 --> 02:40:56,851
questions here did you did you

3309
02:41:02,451 --> 02:41:00,091
get outside what did you and well that's

3310
02:41:06,201 --> 02:41:02,461
the first question oh where did you go

3311
02:41:09,560 --> 02:41:06,211
next well the first thing I tried to do

3312
02:41:11,871 --> 02:41:09,570
was I ran back to my office to tell

3313
02:41:14,571 --> 02:41:11,881
everybody my god a plane just hit the

3314
02:41:16,520 --> 02:41:14,581
Pentagon and I still had my cigarette

3315
02:41:19,341 --> 02:41:16,530
when I got to the house like oh [\h__\h] I'm

3316
02:41:23,091 --> 02:41:19,351
not supposed to have it okay then I

3317
02:41:24,081 --> 02:41:23,101
tried calling okay go ahead I tried to

3318
02:41:25,850 --> 02:41:24,091
call home

3319
02:41:28,190 --> 02:41:25,860
and then of course all the cell phone

3320
02:41:32,571 --> 02:41:28,200
signals were jammed I couldn't call home

3321
02:41:35,270 --> 02:41:32,581
and then I started to walk to the Metro

3322
02:41:38,270 --> 02:41:35,280
I took the Metro train the public

3323
02:41:40,551 --> 02:41:38,280
transportation but the Pentagon station

3324
02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:40,561
was closed so I'd walked across the

3325
02:41:46,940 --> 02:41:43,410
street to what's called Crystal City

3326
02:41:48,680 --> 02:41:46,950
it's just you know a high-rise buildings

3327
02:41:51,621 --> 02:41:48,690
across the street they have a metro

3328
02:41:55,251 --> 02:41:51,631
entrance it was just mobbed with people

3329
02:41:58,071 --> 02:41:55,261
and finally I did get a cell phone call

3330
02:42:00,291 --> 02:41:58,081
through to my brother who lived in

3331
02:42:03,110 --> 02:42:00,301
Alexandria Virginia and he came and

3332
02:42:07,970 --> 02:42:03,120
picked me up well didn't anybody didn't

3333
02:42:10,551 --> 02:42:07,980
anybody stop you or a question or ask

3334
02:42:14,390 --> 02:42:10,561
you know what you saw wasn't there any

3335
02:42:18,440 --> 02:42:14,400
of that going on at the moment of the

3336
02:42:20,421 --> 02:42:18,450
impact no everybody started running for

3337
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:20,431
the doors no I mean and there was a

3338
02:42:26,751 --> 02:42:23,610
lunch I mean afterwards you were able to

3339
02:42:30,890 --> 02:42:26,761
freely leave the Pentagon nobody stopped

3340
02:42:32,900 --> 02:42:30,900
you yeah well I went to my brother's

3341
02:42:37,640 --> 02:42:32,910
house and Alexander and we turned the TV

3342
02:42:39,951 --> 02:42:37,650
on and watched it but the next day there

3343
02:42:42,440 --> 02:42:39,961
were reporters all over the place and

3344
02:42:44,900 --> 02:42:42,450
they were all wanting to talk to us and

3345
02:42:47,091 --> 02:42:44,910
ask what did you see what did you know

3346
02:42:49,011 --> 02:42:47,101
all my colleagues who were not they did

3347
02:42:51,381 --> 02:42:49,021
not see it you know I could see I'm

3348
02:42:55,871 --> 02:42:51,391
talking with this news station that news

3349
02:42:59,301 --> 02:42:55,881
station I didn't talk to any of them I

3350
02:43:01,491 --> 02:42:59,311
didn't want to it's like it it took your

3351
02:43:04,310 --> 02:43:01,501
speaker friends pulling teeth just to

3352
02:43:06,321 --> 02:43:04,320
get me to copy him well that I didn't

3353
02:43:09,540 --> 02:43:06,331
want to talk to them you know I was

3354
02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:09,550
doing shock well that's fine that's fine

3355
02:43:17,730 --> 02:43:14,410
what about the the area out in front of

3356
02:43:19,500 --> 02:43:17,740
the Pentagon which looks like nothing

3357
02:43:22,740 --> 02:43:19,510
scraped the ground or there wasn't a

3358
02:43:24,389 --> 02:43:22,750
gouge were you able to check that out

3359
02:43:26,070 --> 02:43:24,399
did you walk around and look at the

3360
02:43:29,160 --> 02:43:26,080
front of the the Pentagon where the

3361
02:43:31,410 --> 02:43:29,170
impact was oh yeah I did more than that

3362
02:43:34,260 --> 02:43:31,420
but before I say that on the day it

3363
02:43:37,020 --> 02:43:34,270
happened so this explosion happens and

3364
02:43:39,990 --> 02:43:37,030
as I'm leaving and I turn around and I

3365
02:43:43,020 --> 02:43:40,000
look and I see the giant impact and the

3366
02:43:47,910 --> 02:43:43,030
fire and smoke but it was like thirty

3367
02:43:50,639 --> 02:43:47,920
minutes later a wedge fell down and made

3368
02:43:52,590 --> 02:43:50,649
the second loud boom that just panicked

3369
02:43:59,580 --> 02:43:52,600
everybody it was just I guess one of the

3370
02:44:04,590 --> 02:43:59,590
walls or roof caved in but um so the day

3371
02:44:06,360 --> 02:44:04,600
after the Comptroller I worked for we

3372
02:44:08,250 --> 02:44:06,370
had a little meeting and they're all in

3373
02:44:12,150 --> 02:44:08,260
there rubber gloves in their spacesuits

3374
02:44:14,370 --> 02:44:12,160
and I'm wearing nothing I'm like twenty

3375
02:44:16,530 --> 02:44:14,380
something years old and I'm like why are

3376
02:44:19,050 --> 02:44:16,540
you guys wearing hazmat suits and I'm

3377
02:44:24,389 --> 02:44:19,060
not and they ordered me to go in there

3378
02:44:27,480 --> 02:44:24,399
and collect all the computers in that

3379
02:44:30,450 --> 02:44:27,490
section of the building and they said if

3380
02:44:33,360 --> 02:44:30,460
you see any airplane parts pick them up

3381
02:44:37,639 --> 02:44:33,370
and pile them in this pile here and I

3382
02:44:40,290 --> 02:44:37,649
did find like airplane seat cushions I

3383
02:44:42,780 --> 02:44:40,300
found I don't you know people say there

3384
02:44:46,139 --> 02:44:42,790
was no airplane parts but they collected

3385
02:44:48,179 --> 02:44:46,149
them all up I got some they said put him

3386
02:44:51,090 --> 02:44:48,189
in this pile what they did with him I

3387
02:44:54,929 --> 02:44:51,100
don't know but they looked like airplane

3388
02:44:57,870 --> 02:44:54,939
seat cushions and pieces of metal they

3389
02:45:00,599 --> 02:44:57,880
said to us get all the computers pull

3390
02:45:03,349 --> 02:45:00,609
them out and anything that looks like an

3391
02:45:05,910 --> 02:45:03,359
airplane part and pile them in this pile

3392
02:45:08,700 --> 02:45:05,920
you know the Pentagon that's got like

3393
02:45:11,400 --> 02:45:08,710
between each ring it's like an outside

3394
02:45:13,740 --> 02:45:11,410
section so it's like we're piling them

3395
02:45:16,380 --> 02:45:13,750
in between the rings which was like

3396
02:45:18,510 --> 02:45:16,390
outside but it's actually in the

3397
02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:18,520
building right right right and what they

3398
02:45:25,250 --> 02:45:21,130
did with that stuff I don't know but

3399
02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:25,260
they had us go in there and

3400
02:45:31,020 --> 02:45:28,570
it's I don't know if it was an airplane

3401
02:45:35,850 --> 02:45:31,030
seat but they weren't like office seats

3402
02:45:38,400 --> 02:45:35,860
they were you know they looked like like

3403
02:45:41,760 --> 02:45:38,410
buzzer defeats in you know there was

3404
02:45:44,160 --> 02:45:41,770
just fragments of it and pieces of metal

3405
02:45:46,200 --> 02:45:44,170
I forget what's color you know they're

3406
02:45:49,350 --> 02:45:46,210
like any kind of metal might have just

3407
02:45:51,570 --> 02:45:49,360
been white white metal and had us pile

3408
02:45:55,350 --> 02:45:51,580
it all in a stack in this place in

3409
02:45:57,510 --> 02:45:55,360
between Pentagon rings which was like

3410
02:45:59,600 --> 02:45:57,520
outside really but you know what I mean

3411
02:46:02,580 --> 02:45:59,610
yeah it's a little courtyard in between

3412
02:46:05,850 --> 02:46:02,590
all not the courtyard see but yeah each

3413
02:46:08,400 --> 02:46:05,860
ring has an open-air has an out yeah and

3414
02:46:11,190 --> 02:46:08,410
open I mean look up and see the sky

3415
02:46:13,350 --> 02:46:11,200
actually not anymore it's all closed off

3416
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:13,360
now the other comment I wanted to make

3417
02:46:20,670 --> 02:46:16,720
is the section it hit was just freshly

3418
02:46:22,710 --> 02:46:20,680
renovated you know there were not many

3419
02:46:25,320 --> 02:46:22,720
people they were just starting to move

3420
02:46:29,640 --> 02:46:25,330
back in it was all reinforced freshly

3421
02:46:32,610 --> 02:46:29,650
renovated and you know I don't believe

3422
02:46:34,710 --> 02:46:32,620
the 9-1-1 report and i think our

3423
02:46:36,480 --> 02:46:34,720
government knew something and something

3424
02:46:39,720 --> 02:46:36,490
stinks about the whole story

3425
02:46:41,730 --> 02:46:39,730
you know like freshly renovated like

3426
02:46:43,980 --> 02:46:41,740
what a perfect time to plant explosives

3427
02:46:48,620 --> 02:46:43,990
and stuff you know it's something like

3428
02:46:54,500 --> 02:46:48,630
that did happen during the renovation I

3429
02:46:59,210 --> 02:46:54,510
have a question here if you were able to

3430
02:47:02,340 --> 02:46:59,220
find pieces of seat cushions and seats

3431
02:47:08,790 --> 02:47:02,350
what about body parts weren't there any

3432
02:47:13,080 --> 02:47:08,800
bodies you know there were no I was

3433
02:47:16,230 --> 02:47:13,090
instructed not to touch that I didn't

3434
02:47:19,080 --> 02:47:16,240
see a lot of that you know but I know

3435
02:47:23,400 --> 02:47:19,090
other colleagues said they came across

3436
02:47:26,190 --> 02:47:23,410
some but will say this the next day they

3437
02:47:30,270 --> 02:47:26,200
went to work on that Wednesday there

3438
02:47:35,820 --> 02:47:30,280
were what I imagined were bodies under

3439
02:47:37,320 --> 02:47:35,830
white sheets in center court so we were

3440
02:47:39,450 --> 02:47:37,330
not sent in there to get

3441
02:47:43,430 --> 02:47:39,460
bodies but somebody was there all night

3442
02:47:46,380 --> 02:47:43,440
long getting bodies because the next day

3443
02:47:49,020 --> 02:47:46,390
there were bodies in center court it was

3444
02:47:53,280 --> 02:47:49,030
like a makeshift morgue you know there

3445
02:47:56,430 --> 02:47:53,290
were seems like I don't know 20 or 30

3446
02:48:01,830 --> 02:47:56,440
quite a few white sheets that were

3447
02:48:04,920 --> 02:48:01,840
probably bodies but I didn't see any

3448
02:48:07,080 --> 02:48:04,930
when I went in there you know probably

3449
02:48:09,620 --> 02:48:07,090
what because I was it was the next day

3450
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:09,630
that I'm sent in there to get computers

3451
02:48:17,790 --> 02:48:12,880
it was probably that previous night that

3452
02:48:21,450 --> 02:48:17,800
they were pulling bodies out but hmm it

3453
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:21,460
was a terrible day you know and what

3454
02:48:30,840 --> 02:48:25,660
about shoes or clothes or luggage I mean

3455
02:48:33,420 --> 02:48:30,850
did you see anything like that the part

3456
02:48:36,630 --> 02:48:33,430
of the building that was being unsafe to

3457
02:48:39,360 --> 02:48:36,640
go and it was the day after which was

3458
02:48:44,580 --> 02:48:39,370
you know I wasn't allowed to go in it

3459
02:48:45,590 --> 02:48:44,590
was all the way up you know like there

3460
02:48:48,930 --> 02:48:45,600
was still

3461
02:48:51,240 --> 02:48:48,940
walls and structure you know I mean I

3462
02:48:55,051 --> 02:48:51,250
didn't go into where there was probably

3463
02:48:57,810 --> 02:48:55,061
just cinder and a half how did the these

3464
02:48:59,761 --> 02:48:57,820
parts get into your part of the building

3465
02:49:02,940 --> 02:48:59,771
you were working for the Comptroller

3466
02:49:07,020 --> 02:49:02,950
you're a computer guy how did these

3467
02:49:09,930 --> 02:49:07,030
parts get into your offices were below

3468
02:49:13,560 --> 02:49:09,940
where the impact site was I'm trying to

3469
02:49:17,130 --> 02:49:13,570
understand my office was in the basement

3470
02:49:19,710 --> 02:49:17,140
on the opposite side right but Mike but

3471
02:49:21,960 --> 02:49:19,720
my client the Comptroller they were in

3472
02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:21,970
offices all over the Pentagon but

3473
02:49:28,620 --> 02:49:25,930
primarily on the earing the the

3474
02:49:30,840 --> 02:49:28,630
Comptroller herself was on the e-ring on

3475
02:49:34,410 --> 02:49:30,850
the opposite side but we had some

3476
02:49:36,480 --> 02:49:34,420
offices that were right next to the part

3477
02:49:39,540 --> 02:49:36,490
that got hit and it was they were

3478
02:49:42,270 --> 02:49:39,550
sending me in to get our computers the

3479
02:49:46,710 --> 02:49:42,280
Comptroller computers and we had like

3480
02:49:49,830 --> 02:49:46,720
six or eight offices that were you know

3481
02:49:51,230 --> 02:49:49,840
like half a corridor away from the this

3482
02:49:54,500 --> 02:49:51,240
corridor that got the

3483
02:49:57,440 --> 02:49:54,510
polished and so I wasn't actually

3484
02:50:00,051 --> 02:49:57,450
walking through the ashen cinder where

3485
02:50:03,171 --> 02:50:00,061
all the firemen were still there the

3486
02:50:05,930 --> 02:50:03,181
next day that thing burn for smoldered

3487
02:50:10,000 --> 02:50:05,940
for a few days if they remember and I

3488
02:50:13,131 --> 02:50:10,010
also remember lots of water you know

3489
02:50:15,290 --> 02:50:13,141
there was a water damage throughout the

3490
02:50:18,080 --> 02:50:15,300
Pentagon from all the fire hoses and

3491
02:50:22,131 --> 02:50:18,090
stuff you know and that like the

3492
02:50:26,060 --> 02:50:22,141
Pentagon was leaking water but I just

3493
02:50:28,610 --> 02:50:26,070
wanted to let people know there was a

3494
02:50:30,890 --> 02:50:28,620
plane circling coming towards the

3495
02:50:33,440 --> 02:50:30,900
Pentagon and and then there was an

3496
02:50:36,350 --> 02:50:33,450
explosion but my eyeballs didn't

3497
02:50:38,540 --> 02:50:36,360
actually see the plane hit because

3498
02:50:40,490 --> 02:50:38,550
obviously I'm on the e-ring and it's on

3499
02:50:45,160 --> 02:50:40,500
the you know outside of the building I

3500
02:50:47,750 --> 02:50:45,170
just saw it coming in at full speed and

3501
02:50:51,890 --> 02:50:47,760
then it just as it went below the

3502
02:50:54,591 --> 02:50:51,900
horizon like five seconds later this

3503
02:50:59,270 --> 02:50:54,601
huge like nuclear mushroom cloud just

3504
02:51:01,280 --> 02:50:59,280
rolling up in the air and it uh what

3505
02:51:05,900 --> 02:51:01,290
else happened that day I mean a lot of

3506
02:51:09,011 --> 02:51:05,910
events happened and um Wow well you know

3507
02:51:13,131 --> 02:51:09,021
I want to thank you for calling in and

3508
02:51:15,680 --> 02:51:13,141
maybe another show we'll take this a

3509
02:51:18,950 --> 02:51:15,690
little bit further but I really

3510
02:51:21,110 --> 02:51:18,960
appreciate that and yeah you're the

3511
02:51:24,801 --> 02:51:21,120
first person that I have talked to that

3512
02:51:27,261 --> 02:51:24,811
was there that day so you know and they

3513
02:51:29,120 --> 02:51:27,271
made a point of making us come to work

3514
02:51:31,220 --> 02:51:29,130
because I didn't want to come to work

3515
02:51:33,440 --> 02:51:31,230
and I think it was all that we got to

3516
02:51:36,830 --> 02:51:33,450
show the enemy they can't mock us out

3517
02:51:40,190 --> 02:51:36,840
worth you know we're back to working the

3518
02:51:41,720 --> 02:51:40,200
next day but or it was just because they

3519
02:51:43,881 --> 02:51:41,730
knew they were going to send me in there

3520
02:51:47,450 --> 02:51:43,891
to grab all their computers and see if

3521
02:51:49,820 --> 02:51:47,460
they found a plane parts and the only

3522
02:51:52,881 --> 02:51:49,830
plane part I found was a piece of metal

3523
02:51:57,020 --> 02:51:52,891
and like half of a cushion that looked

3524
02:51:58,970 --> 02:51:57,030
like it could be a plane seat and we

3525
02:52:01,900 --> 02:51:58,980
were told the pilot up in this place

3526
02:52:04,920 --> 02:52:01,910
there was a pile that we got that was

3527
02:52:07,380 --> 02:52:04,930
would like half fill a dumpster

3528
02:52:09,630 --> 02:52:07,390
mm-hmm and this was just these you know

3529
02:52:11,670 --> 02:52:09,640
eight or nine people working for the

3530
02:52:14,030 --> 02:52:11,680
Comptroller they sent on in there you

3531
02:52:16,860 --> 02:52:14,040
know who knows who else was in there

3532
02:52:20,519 --> 02:52:16,870
sanitizing the evidence you know right

3533
02:52:23,280 --> 02:52:20,529
right but I think it's interesting how

3534
02:52:26,070 --> 02:52:23,290
it hit the renovated section you know

3535
02:52:30,870 --> 02:52:26,080
yeah it's the one that they planted all

3536
02:52:32,639 --> 02:52:30,880
their little incendiary devices in the

3537
02:52:35,660 --> 02:52:32,649
walls and everything so it would burn

3538
02:52:39,780 --> 02:52:35,670
real good when when the event happened

3539
02:52:41,400 --> 02:52:39,790
what Wow and there and like I said there

3540
02:52:43,769 --> 02:52:41,410
was not a lot of people and they were

3541
02:52:46,889 --> 02:52:43,779
just starting to move back in otherwise

3542
02:52:48,599 --> 02:52:46,899
there would have been many more died in

3543
02:52:51,630 --> 02:52:48,609
the Pentagon I forget what the number

3544
02:52:54,420 --> 02:52:51,640
was but it would have been way more if

3545
02:52:55,920 --> 02:52:54,430
it was fully staffed and people had

3546
02:52:58,979 --> 02:52:55,930
moved back into their newly renovated

3547
02:53:02,700 --> 02:52:58,989
office they were just starting to move

3548
02:53:05,309 --> 02:53:02,710
back in which is sort of coincidental

3549
02:53:07,979 --> 02:53:05,319
and I don't believe in coincidences you

3550
02:53:10,219 --> 02:53:07,989
know let it hit that section right that

3551
02:53:12,990 --> 02:53:10,229
they knew was the sparsely populated

3552
02:53:17,340 --> 02:53:13,000
section did you know anybody that died

3553
02:53:22,590 --> 02:53:17,350
in the Pentagon I had some acquaintances

3554
02:53:26,939 --> 02:53:22,600
that died in in the Pentagon and uh on

3555
02:53:28,969 --> 02:53:26,949
and even some of that there was a on the

3556
02:53:31,500 --> 02:53:28,979
airplane that hit there was some like

3557
02:53:34,320 --> 02:53:31,510
schoolchildren and a friend of Mines kid

3558
02:53:36,269 --> 02:53:34,330
got killed was one of the students there

3559
02:53:40,139 --> 02:53:36,279
was like a classroom of kids on an

3560
02:53:41,729 --> 02:53:40,149
airplane that airplane and but they

3561
02:53:44,939 --> 02:53:41,739
weren't friends that I knew their

3562
02:53:46,920 --> 02:53:44,949
acquaintances that I knew from working

3563
02:53:51,420 --> 02:53:46,930
at the Pentagon they're like two or

3564
02:53:55,469 --> 02:53:51,430
three people I knew and they have and

3565
02:53:58,260 --> 02:53:55,479
still have memorials every year I still

3566
02:54:00,570 --> 02:53:58,270
work at the Pentagon sometimes it's from

3567
02:54:02,760 --> 02:54:00,580
there or Andrews Air Force Base or this

3568
02:54:05,910 --> 02:54:02,770
other Air Force Base but I met the

3569
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:05,920
Pentagon periodically but the years

3570
02:54:10,620 --> 02:54:08,080
after when I was still working there and

3571
02:54:13,229 --> 02:54:10,630
they'd had their 9-1-1 commemoration and

3572
02:54:15,990 --> 02:54:13,239
they'd have a flyover people would

3573
02:54:18,900 --> 02:54:16,000
complain about that because people would

3574
02:54:21,420 --> 02:54:18,910
freak out you know a year later and

3575
02:54:23,670 --> 02:54:21,430
airplanes are flying over and it was a

3576
02:54:26,190 --> 02:54:23,680
commemoration but people would freak out

3577
02:54:27,929 --> 02:54:26,200
still people were shell-shocked a lot of

3578
02:54:32,040 --> 02:54:27,939
people couldn't go back to work after

3579
02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:32,050
that day but anyway Wow thank you was

3580
02:54:41,610 --> 02:54:35,770
there yeah well thank you for that did

3581
02:54:45,630 --> 02:54:41,620
the were you ever asked to come in and

3582
02:54:48,620 --> 02:54:45,640
give a debrief and I would imagine that

3583
02:54:51,179 --> 02:54:48,630
I mean every Pentagon employee had to

3584
02:54:55,200 --> 02:54:51,189
you know discuss this and then also

3585
02:54:56,580 --> 02:54:55,210
maybe sign off non-disclosure agreements

3586
02:55:00,540 --> 02:54:56,590
that you wouldn't discuss this with

3587
02:55:04,790 --> 02:55:00,550
anybody else we were we had a meeting

3588
02:55:07,320 --> 02:55:04,800
with our client the Comptroller that

3589
02:55:10,260 --> 02:55:07,330
mostly it was did you know is anybody

3590
02:55:19,139 --> 02:55:10,270
upset we offer counseling and that kind

3591
02:55:21,690 --> 02:55:19,149
of thing there I wasn't told about don't

3592
02:55:26,850 --> 02:55:21,700
tell anybody this that or the other type

3593
02:55:28,290 --> 02:55:26,860
of thing you know I was wondering you

3594
02:55:30,000 --> 02:55:28,300
know you would think they would don't

3595
02:55:31,770 --> 02:55:30,010
mention you found plane parts or

3596
02:55:33,389 --> 02:55:31,780
something like that but I don't they

3597
02:55:36,929 --> 02:55:33,399
wouldn't say that they didn't want to be

3598
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:36,939
obvious about it they didn't care what I

3599
02:55:41,639 --> 02:55:39,520
say I'm a nobody go ahead David tell

3600
02:55:44,250 --> 02:55:41,649
them you collected plane parts because

3601
02:55:47,130 --> 02:55:44,260
they knew if they said something to me

3602
02:55:49,110 --> 02:55:47,140
them they'd be admitting they knew

3603
02:55:51,960 --> 02:55:49,120
something so they didn't do that they

3604
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:51,970
just knew do your job and if you ever

3605
02:55:55,860 --> 02:55:53,920
speak of it nobody's gonna believe you

3606
02:55:58,710 --> 02:55:55,870
anyway or something I don't know but no

3607
02:56:02,550 --> 02:55:58,720
we weren't officially called that we had

3608
02:56:04,830 --> 02:56:02,560
a meeting and mainly it was if you need

3609
02:56:07,770 --> 02:56:04,840
counseling in that but I will say this

3610
02:56:11,520 --> 02:56:07,780
security changed after that day we were

3611
02:56:13,950 --> 02:56:11,530
all issued gas masks what where we used

3612
02:56:16,560 --> 02:56:13,960
to just be able to walk in and flash our

3613
02:56:18,900 --> 02:56:16,570
badge you know and a guard would look at

3614
02:56:20,969 --> 02:56:18,910
it they got rid of that and then it

3615
02:56:23,700 --> 02:56:20,979
became like smart cards you had the

3616
02:56:27,330 --> 02:56:23,710
swipe you know the security really

3617
02:56:29,969 --> 02:56:27,340
tightened up after that day at the

3618
02:56:32,189 --> 02:56:29,979
Pentagon and I mean you used to be able

3619
02:56:34,920 --> 02:56:32,199
to clap when I was a kid and my

3620
02:56:38,179 --> 02:56:34,930
homework there anybody could walk into

3621
02:56:40,859 --> 02:56:38,189
the Pentagon it was a public mall yeah

3622
02:56:44,489 --> 02:56:40,869
you know you're right you're right about

3623
02:56:47,760 --> 02:56:44,499
that and over at Fort Ben Harrison I

3624
02:56:50,099 --> 02:56:47,770
remember specifically the Finance Center

3625
02:56:52,319 --> 02:56:50,109
at Fort Ben Harrison that cuts all of

3626
02:56:54,209 --> 02:56:52,329
the checks for all of the military every

3627
02:56:57,539 --> 02:56:54,219
batch every paycheck comes out of there

3628
02:57:00,539 --> 02:56:57,549
right and it's a huge building when I

3629
02:57:02,939 --> 02:57:00,549
was a kid I walked in and out of there

3630
02:57:06,059 --> 02:57:02,949
like it was nothing and it's probably

3631
02:57:08,729 --> 02:57:06,069
the size of the Pentagon it's huge

3632
02:57:11,399 --> 02:57:08,739
golf carts you know the whole thing the

3633
02:57:13,949 --> 02:57:11,409
wide hallways with the stripes and this

3634
02:57:14,939 --> 02:57:13,959
ginormous building but I walked him in

3635
02:57:18,959 --> 02:57:14,949
out of there all the time

3636
02:57:20,489 --> 02:57:18,969
oh I never I never got stopped listen

3637
02:57:23,279 --> 02:57:20,499
David I got to get out of here I got a

3638
02:57:26,489 --> 02:57:23,289
roll credits thank you for for all of

3639
02:57:29,819 --> 02:57:26,499
that tonight and I no problem and we'll

3640
02:57:31,709 --> 02:57:29,829
take it we'll take it further on another

3641
02:57:36,689 --> 02:57:31,719
show I'd like to talk to you more about

3642
02:57:39,389 --> 02:57:36,699
all of this well thank you so much again

3643
02:57:41,849 --> 02:57:39,399
thank you so much David bye you got it

3644
02:57:45,380 --> 02:57:41,859
and to have a phone call like that

3645
02:57:48,630 --> 02:57:45,390
somebody that was at the Pentagon and

3646
02:57:52,619 --> 02:57:48,640
September 11th 2001 to call into this

3647
02:57:55,489 --> 02:57:52,629
show and and talk about the impact and

3648
02:57:57,719 --> 02:57:55,499
what he went through at that very moment

3649
02:58:00,149 --> 02:57:57,729
that's what this show was all about I

3650
02:58:02,489 --> 02:58:00,159
want to thank David for for having the

3651
02:58:06,739 --> 02:58:02,499
courage to call in tonight and there you

3652
02:58:10,559 --> 02:58:06,749
go and that wraps our a very special

3653
02:58:12,671 --> 02:58:10,569
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3654
02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:12,681
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3655
02:58:19,360 --> 02:58:17,110
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02:58:20,980 --> 02:58:19,370
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3657
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02:59:00,910 --> 02:58:56,450
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3672
02:59:01,690 --> 02:59:00,920
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3673
02:59:05,440 --> 02:59:01,700
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02:59:08,650 --> 02:59:05,450
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